cool but extent doesn't tell us much. The multiyear ice is pretty much all gone. Ever see a lake go ice free in the spring? The lake has a thin layer of ice covering it all - right before it goes ice free. Now we have warm water coming in from the Atlantic and Pacific - melting the ice from below. The ice free arctic is accelerating to be sure. Jennifer MacKinnon of SCRIPPS just finished an arctic research project and she said the Arctic could be ice free next year.
Godfrey Pigott
5 hours ago
And Paul Beckwith said it will happen with near certainty in 2013.
Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang
5 hours ago
@Godfrey Pigott The first time in 3 million years - give or take ten years. I'd say the error range is accurate. An accelerating global EcoCide.
Godfrey Pigott
4 hours ago
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang Did you not get the point? "Almost certainly"
Clearly he has no concept of what that means.
Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang
3 hours ago
@Godfrey Pigott "The Arctic Ocean has lost 95 percent of its oldest ice — a startling sign of what’s to come
If the thinning trend continues, scientists fear an added boost to global warming." yeah I'm pretty sure Paul Beckwith knows what that means - just as Peter Wadhams does. Wadhams went to the Arctic 50 times to study the ice and his office space was shared with Stephen Hawking at Cambridge. "News 8 spoke with lead scientist Jennifer MacKinnon who lead Scripps ... MacKinnon says Arctic sea ice could be gone by next year " Scripps Institution of Oceanography researchers discover 'heat bombs' destroying Arctic ice. “The rate of accelerating sea ice melt in the Arctic has been hard to ... water plays as part of those feedbacks,” said Jennifer MacKinnon, ...
So because the Pacific and Atlantic have heated up so much then the arctic ice is melting from below - not just above. 2012 was a very low ice year and so the average is trending down fast. So 2012 was low but the past few years have been pretty much as low as 2012. For example, the US Navy researchers predicted a sea-ice-free Arctic by the summer of 2016. According to this report we are already over due for this event. Researchers recently had a breakthrough in finding the specific mechanism behind the rapid melting of sea ice in the Arctic Ocean.
“Arctic sea ice could be gone (in the summer) by next year (2022),” says Jennifer A. MacKinnon, a Lead Climate Scientist at Scripps Institute. Let’s not even talk about the implications of the theoretical 50 gigaton methane burst known as the methane time bomb, or the clathrate gun hypothesis, or the melting glaciers at Novaya Zemlya which are known to be leaking radiation from the Tsar Bomba detonation into the already badly polluted oceans.
Godfrey Pigott
2 hours ago
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang Mate - I have an interest in nothing more than Beckwith's nonsense prediction for 2013. I understand that offloading your entire knowledge base onto me makes you feel good, but I have no interest. Given that there is nothing to do to stop it (although it will absolutely NOT be happening next year), what do you feel you are achieving here?
Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang
1 hour ago
@Godfrey Pigott 22nd October 2020: "For the first time since records began, the Laptev sea has yet to start freezing by late October",
Godfrey Pigott
53 minutes ago
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang Apparently you were not able to understand what I just said. BTW - you know this is 2021, right?
Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang
12 seconds ago
@Godfrey Pigott
"The 2021 minimum is the twelfth lowest in the nearly 43-year satellite record. The last 15 years are the lowest 15 sea ice extents in the satellite record. The amount of multi-year ice (ice that has survived at least one summer melt season), is one of the lowest levels in the ice age record, which began in 1984…"...
" One new study, published last week in the journal Nature Communications, attempts to determine what happened during that last major gap in Arctic ice. The study provides new evidence that the last major gap ended about 2.6 million years ago, "
10 years divided by 2.6 million years = 0.00000384615
Time to grow up buddy.
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