In addition, permanent campers in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania can use their camp site again.
So this is supposedly translated from German. That phrase Permanent Campers got me interested. Because in zoning you have "primary residence" and "principal residence" and "Permanent residence."
https://www.forestriverforums.com/forums/f2/permanent-campsite-good-or-bad-idea-28726.html
Sure enough "Permanent Campsites" are a real term for the US as well (but they probably just apply to "campers" aka "RVs."
the only problem is they have no sewer. They have a truck that comes around and pumps you out. Has anyone else ever had to do this, and if so, was it an issue?
Not really camping if they don't understand Composting!
now has a few select sites available for full-time residents.
So it seems that "permanent camping" is kind of hard to find?
Wow they allow "tiny homes" but you still pay $500 or more a month plus utilities! crazy.There were some issues in this county (Park) stemming from people
basically living like hobos... basically you can obtain a camping permit
that requires your camper to be removed from your land for 24 hrs every
month. It seems to be a non-issue.
Wow so that's how they get around that "month" limit to camping in Park County Colorado. hilarious.
Are hobos really that bad - even if it's on their OWN land that is private? People really are quick to judge.... Were all the pre-First Contact people all "Hobos"?
If you are considering "selling" your campsite, here is what you MUST say when posting it "For Sale":
1. For Sale: __________ (fill in the blank---camper/deck/roof/golf cart/other lot improvements) on a Permanent Campsite at Long's Retreat.
https://www.facebook.com/LongsRetreatPermanentCampers/
Many people are members of Home Owners Associations that do not allow
recreation vehicles or boats to be stored in the driveway or yard. If
you have to pay storage fees anyway, crunch the numbers on a seasonal
spot. It may not cost that much more to find storage and a permanent campsite for your travel trailer or motorhome!
If you have a seasonal site, the RV is parked and waiting. All you have
to do is show up with some clean clothes and a bag of groceries!
Hmm. So it's a "permanent campsite" but it's a Primary residence - not the "permanent residence."? For some it IS the "permanent residence" also...
Interesting.
15 permanent campsites with electricity and water.
If you are interested in a permanent campsite, please call the
camp office at 920-787-3202 to be placed on the waiting list--
our permanent campsites are about as popular as season tickets for the Green Bay Packers and have a long waiting list!
https://www.campphillip.com/page/2195/18861/Campsites
fascinating.
So there's no law that states you HAVE to have electricity - as far as I know.
That would seem kind of strange to me.
Primitive dwellings use "Hand Carry Water." That's what I use on my land.
So the claim being made by the IRS I think is that you HAVE to have "facilities" as in modern electricity and plumbing to have a "primary" residence?
OK we now that compost toilets are a loop hole. We know that if you live somewhere more than six months a year then it's "primary" and also you can camp more than six months a year (in my area).
So the only catch is that the tent becomes a "structure" and so a "dwelling" requiring a permit AFTER six months. So that means the tent would have to be moved off the land for five months a year.
So legally they could not kick you off your land.
If you are interested in a permanent campsite, please call the camp office at 920-787-3202 to be placed on the waiting list--
our permanent campsites are about as popular as season tickets for the Green Bay Packers and have a long waiting list!
FULL-TIME CAMP LIVING
So when that is "advertised" - then obviously they mean an RV with electricity and water. So I understand that in terms of a business. I'm just wondering about camping on private property or the national forest.
Again the issue seems to be people do not understand Composting - but I have established that composting toilets do not require a permit. As long as you do not have a "dwelling unit."
So I did not know that was the official terminology - very cool. We have a "permanent campsite" near the state park...or county park it is. In other words - there's RVs there year round. Whether people live there year round is another question.
an RV park that provides electrical/water hookups for RVs and camping
sites. It sells/rents limited related supplies. This is a
seasonal spot,
So in Minnesota a "permanent campsite" actually means seasonal since it's too cold for an RV in the winter?
Buy a parcel of land in a remote area and park your rig on it.
You can’t poach on public land. That is theft from the taxpayers.
However, federal lands generally allow free dispersed camping in many areas for 14 days, then you must move to a new spot. In the Southwest US the BLM offers what is called a LTVA — Long Term Visitor Areas. For about $180 you can camp in designated areas (basically large flat areas in the desert, on the outskirts of a town) for as long as you want over the winter months, commonly October to April. No 14 day limit. You must have a self-contained RV — no tents. There are no hookups. Bring your own power (generator OK) and locals will provide fresh water and sewer waste disposal for a fee. Many people do this, and the LTVAs become mini-communities of like minded RVers. They all become friendly and will keep an eye on your rig while you run into town for groceries or errands, have community pot-lucks, organize group games, etc. Many of the LTVA users are Canadian snowbirds. Standing joke — Arizona is Canada’s southernmost province half the year
.For your fee you get very limited services. Some have large dumpsters on site, making trash disposal easier. A BLM ranger will occasionally drive through the LTVA and keep an eye for anything amiss, disreputable people trying to sneak in without paying the fee, etc
https://www.rv-camping.org/blmcampgrounds/
I get it - so people leave their RV parked permanently but just live in it seasonal and it's their "primary residence" while living their seasonally.... OK it's starting to make more sense...So you could definitely do that on your OWN land as "seasonal" camping. It could DEFINITELY be your "primary residence" - at least while you still lived there. So my county has their "Emergency Planning" document state that "seasonal" camping is NOT meant to be during the winter (for emergency reasons). So in other words if you stretched out the seven months of camping to be year round - just camping 14 days at a time or whatever - then you are camping in the winter, using it for mail delivery, etc. and so NOW it's your "Principal" or Permanent Address - not just your "primary address" during the camping season....Interesting.
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