The Irony of Rust Bros. entertaining new Netflix series Show as a "business" model

When they see us doing them, they know that anyone can do them....we touched a nerve somewhere, I don't know how....

Mike Hall - rust car restorer on why people love his Rust Bros. show. full episodes online

I think maybe you all miss the point that the SHOW is ENTERTAINING (and we learn about cars in the mean time). Sure running a successful business is another thing - but maybe you forget he's getting PAID to create a t.v. show. And I'd much rather watch people having FUN with cars and learning from it - then watch some hard-ass boring assembly line of a job. I've done over 40 of those jobs in my life. haha.

Somebody PLEASE tell Mike & Avery both the do something with their hair and wash their clothes once and a while. I know it's a dirty job but your supposed to look professional and be a representative of your company that claims to do do high end work, yet you both look homeless. Big fan of the show and wish them lots of success but come on boys, let's clean ourselves up a little bit.

The US "profit" mentality has consistently called for the show's "sideman" Avery to be FIRED - over and over. C'mon! ( I think I've seen at least six comments calling for him to be axed) People in the U.S. can not handle having a job that is as much a lifestyle of taking it easy as it is getting things done.

Don't Worry 2 months ago

This is just Trailer Park Boys in reality.

 

Rockers From Hell 2 months ago (edited)

They ought to call it half assed resto dudes, jeez the tv is full of them these days.. Terrible. Trying to make money and a life off old cars the worst way.

Mike backs up Avery as being a genius mechanic - despite doing things his own way.This is a backwoods mechanic show - with people living off the land - just trying to survive. Let them dress how they want to.

  Just this Canadian masterpiece is literally well within prices that just go to show what can be done with junk. Or what looks like junk but isn’t they’re right on the edge just like the cliff above...

What's hilarious about the comments on this new show - is how  the US "business" mindset is freaking out about the Rust Bros. just kicking back and goofing around too much!!

 I watched the whole season on netflix for some reason. No way I would buy anything from these guys. They never go through an engine. Hell, if you have it out, you might as well tear it down, do a valve job, some new valve stem seals, piston rings, hone the cylinders, new crank/ rod bearings, timing chain set, oil pump, and a gasket set. They had an engine with the oil pan sitting in a tire with a rim on it. Then they wonder why the crank is hitting the bottom of the pan. They just set the oil pans on the concrete slab. I am sure it jacked up the clearance between the oil pump pick up, and the oil pan. And the safety hazards, I have done some stupid stuff in my younger day's, but this is like watching final destination.

Someone points out - hey it's a SHOW - it's edited to be entertaining...

https://mystarcollectorcar.com/rust-valley-restorers-more-docudrama-and-less-educational/

So a local media guy lambasts the show for having "fake sentimental" scripting and that Mike insisted he get paid for taking photos at a museum that he did not own - Mike being the lead star/owner of the Rust Bros. property. So not sure what that "museum" was about?

  his day job dynamiting rocks to stabilize slopes and rock faces – “dopes on ropes,” he quips – began hoarding cars in his teens.

 Hanging on a rope, prying boulders out of mountainsides so highway traffic and trains can pass safely below, that’s what.

 I was wondering how he got those skills - they showcase those in the last episode of season 1

 The story went viral, and Hall found himself fielding calls from collectors as far away as Finland and from video producers who proposed documentaries on the wild man with a soft spot for car cadavers.

Tyson Hepburn and Matt Shewchuk, of Vancouver-based Mayhem Entertainment, knew Hall from a guest appearance he’d made on Highway Thru Hell, a Discovery Canada show Shewchuk directed. In it, the Rasta Blasta was called in to blow up rogue boulders.

Hepburn’s pitch video earned backing from Corus Entertainment for the eight-part series featuring Hall and celebrating the car culture of the Shuswap communities east of Kamloops, dubbed Rust Valley in the show (it resumes Jan 17, 10 p.m.). The White Post Auto Museum and Antiques Mall is just along the Trans-Canada from Hall’s shop.

 Ah - just down the road!

https://www.hotcars.com/15-little-known-facts-about-the-rust-valley-restorers-crew/

So what exactly IS "fake" about the show?

but according to the crew, this is as authentic it can get. Including the sparks that fly between all of them, especially when the going gets tough.

 while the cast does use technical jargon to discuss the restoration projects, they make sure that the audience and even car noobs can understand what is going on. And this makes the show popular as well as easy to watch.

So in one of the last episodes of season one - they discover the truck chassis has an illegal butt weld - and it is fixed by their professional welder/fabricator - with a box weld. So I guess the butt weld was not reinforced itself? Just on the other side?

 Vertical welds will ALWAYS break because the stress is pulling across the the width of the bead instead of dispersing along the length.

 https://forum.millerwelds.com/forum/welding-projects/2490-welding-a-vehicle-frame

interesting.

 The show is ninety per cent real,” Hall says. Reality is taping the last of 12 segments for Season Two in December just as the first shows are appearing on History Channel.

“It’s minus five degrees and I’m outside in a muscle shirt with no sleeves in December,” Hall says.

 https://driving.ca/column/collector-classics/the-story-behind-rust-valley-restorers

So I've been getting into "cars" recently just because it's much cheaper to try to save the car I've been using then to have to buy another car. Also this car I've been using has this engine that is now desired by Hot Rod "turbo" engine swap people - Motor Trending, etc. vid

So I knew the engine had a lot of torque at low rpms - due to the dual overhead cams.

 The 4.2-liter Atlas LL8, otherwise called the Vortec 4200, was a groundbreaking engine for GM. It featured an all-aluminum construction, dual overhead cams with variable valve timing on the exhaust side, .Engine swap - vortec 4200 inline 6 engine in action - "burn out" vid

The 4200 or LL8 version of the motor was voted one of the 10 best engines 4 years in a row by Wards.

 The GM Vortec 4200 straight six DOHC engine tests were staggering in scope compared to the aircraft world. GM built 800 engines for development and testing. 24 engines went on the dyno and all met their 150,000 mile durability target. 5 of these were run WOT for 300,000 miles (let's conservatively say 5000 hours each) and all passed. GM put 4 million test miles on other vehicles validating this engine design alone. Pretty darn impressive! WOT on a dyno means the engine is producing max power at that loaded rpm. The tests are run between torque peak rpm and power peak rpm- just the kind of use you'd see in an aircraft application. This would equate to this engine running at between 190 and 270 hp (70-100% power).

 The base engine is an '05 Vortec 4200, but Wieser says '06 to '07 engines offer a better-flowing cylinder head with more cam timing. The engine features a 3.70-inch bore and a 4.00-inch stroke (258ci) and uses a pair of overhead cams to drive the four valves per cylinder. The 4200 also relies on an electronic throttle that Wieser has retained on his turbo version. https://www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp-1108-turbocharged-vortec-inline-six/

 But what I find fascinating about "car culture" - is that it is so dominant as - maybe not in Europe so much - but the "new world" completely depends on cars for personal transportation and car culture is rapidly destroying the ecology of Earth.

So the idea that the show's lead actor is a "hippy" is kind of ironic to say the least. But then hippies did "sell out" after the 1960s - with the Cointelpro Crackdown helping them along. So now being a "hippy" is more of just a personal fashion statement - although Mike emphasizes that he is more into Karma than he is into making money. And so that is the main plot point of the show - the son wants to make money since his future is in taking over the business. The dad wants to continue his hobby of his passion about old cars - and if he makes money along the way - then so be it. So he spends as much and more than he makes - because the idea is that by spending money on other people's cars and parts then they will want to buy his stuff also.

http://www.rustbrosrestos.com/

So Behind the Scenes with Mike Hall of Rust Brothers vid

I also wish they'd demonstrate safer shop practices, as some scenes show utterly ignorant, down right sophomoric unsafe behavior: such as: using a cutting torch w/o gloves, let alone eye protection... duh, where you think the slag is gonna go? Surprise Conner, you burnt your arm before you even got started cutting... it's almost as if they're trying to make that characters look like idiots. I have a difficult time believing anyone that works in a shop for their entire life, could be that unsafe or ignorant. How someone hasn't lost a toe, or some digits is surprising. The award goes to those two dudes crawling under a car to to cut out a rear end while the skid steer holds the entire back end off the ground. There's a basic rule with equipment, don't trust the hydraulics; meaning never go UNDER something being held up by hydraulics. Just ask anyone who's been crushed. Oh whoops, you can't, they're dead.

 So yeah - these are what's called "backwood mechanics" - and it's dangerous and that's what gives the show appeal - DO NOT DO THIS people! And yet they do it.... So it really gets under the skin of the "professionals" - the people working under code regulations, etc.

Rust Bros make a house visit - vid