What are the "costs" of training with a real "inner door" teacher?

Ok Drew,

So if I understand you correctly, you’re saying that you couldn’t get enough information from Chunyi, so you had to look to other ways of explaining what’s going on objectively. Is that right?

There’s definitely some cultural differences with how things are taught in China and the West. It’s important to understand that in China there are two types of student - inner door and outer door.

Outer door students are the millions who take up qigong. The way they are taught is as you say just follow the instructions and get on with it.

Some of these outer door students will start with some natural ability or stumble across a correct principle that would advance them faster past the foundations.

They would then be picked and asked to join as an inner door student. This is when the principles, explanations and further transmissions would be given. There a lot of questions, answers, discussions, theory and explanations for inner door students.

But it’s really a numbers game in China. There are so many students that it’s impossible for them all to be inner door. So teachers would just teach the basics until the talented or the dedicated ones would stand out.

In the West 90% of the teachings are taken from what western teachers learned as outer door students in China and then they add their own interpretations, additions and deletions. Thus the art is diluted to such an extent that the real techniques are lost. This is actually also happening in China as well. These days you need to travel to other parts of Asia to meet accomplished teachers.

I’m afraid that what you’re doing, Drew, is the same thing. Taking outer door teachings that have already gone through the americanization process and then further distorting them with pseudo science. The result of this is that neither scientists agree with you nor do qi gong practitioners. I’m afraid that rather than finding an objective way of explaining the processes, you’re muddying the waters and losing the art.

I can see that your heart is in the right place and you’re really inspired by these arts. I also completely understand how you would yearn for further understanding. You’re obviously very smart and could probably do really well with proper training.

My suggestion for you is to get back to training - the way that a good teacher tells you to train (no third eye orgasms) I can see that Chunyi is rather expensive. So find a way to earn enough money to be able to see him regularly. I’m sure that if you prove yourself a good student, eventually you can reach some sort of compromise regarding costs.

Well you seem very interested in my personal training. haha. 
Yes Chunyi had natural abilities and then since he also was chair of his English department, as a college professor, he also had the time to travel around China. Since he also knew several dialects of Chinese - he was able to train with many different masters. And since he did the 49 day cave meditation at Mt. Qingcheng - then his experience level is very "wonderful."
As for him being expensive - yes I would say this is necessary to preclude people just wanting to take his energy all the time - although as he had said - he just recharges his energy as he sends it out. So he gave the story of a couple trying to take his energy all the time - and so he just kept giving them energy and then the couple had to finally realize that "energy" is not something materialistic based on coveting it as a finite resource. So the couple then apologized to him for trying to take his energy.
But I did have the honor of having direct study with the assistant teacher of Chunyi, his only "2nd level qigong master" - But anyway - yes Chunyi also did tell me that:

It's great that you can give females bliss but as long as you keep doing so then your qi will be weak.

So what I have done is bought land "up north" as a hermitage to do meditating training "retreats" so to speak. Nevertheless after my "enlightenment experience" as Chunyi called it - I have done free psychic healing - which is the yin qi energy. As the book Taoist Yoga states yin qi is just the same as yuan qi but only an "immature" level of it. So this is also the DAoist criticism of Buddhism - that the Buddhists achieve mind enlightenment but then just become yin shen ghosts after death, since they don't develop the yuan qi enough, through the yin-yang alchemy training.

So another aspect of the Westernization of qigong, like in India, you find that the gurus or masters, not only charge immense fees, but also dabble in Western "fancies" - like taking Cruise ships on a regular basis. So Daoism is supposedly in harmony with ecology and yet cruise ships are a huge pollution source - taking one cruise ship is the same as driving a car for half your life! Cruise ships just dump all the human crap directly into the oceans. Thousands of people die a year just from cruise ship pollution! Some cities have banned cruise ships from docking - since their pollution is so bad.

But do I really expect an immigrant to the West, who is financially successful, to not partake in the "fruits" of the Westernized destruction of Earth's ecology? haha. Of course not - that is part of the trade off of learning Ancient Chinese Secrets, isn't it? haha. And so what remains in the end? Well if you consider Abrupt Global Warming - for example the Eastern Siberian Arctic Shelf methane bomb, that, as Dr. Natalia Shakhova has been documenting, going "exponential" with "each year matters" in terms of Earth's global warming doubling - or the Global Dimming Effect (meaning the more renewables we use, the more global warming gets worse) - these are certain locked in fatalities of Westernization. Which is to say - what will remain when the 400 plus nuclear power plants can not be maintained when civilization collapses? Or depleted uranium being spread around the planet?

Yes the Dao will still remain as a formless awareness energy - but to achieve the Dao is still based on the ecological harmonization of the Sun, Moon and EArth. So ecology will recover - it may take tens of millions of years. Some new species will discover the secrets of training in shamanic spiritual energy healing. haha.