Saturday, January 18, 2025

Did primitive dispersed camping just get outlawed? "a bit of a war on homelessness in this country" hmmm

  @drumeshopeth  "better bathroom facilities" - urine diverting dry toilets as composting is "ecological sanitation." Too bad county governments prefer their "septic" businesses instead. hahaha. Backcountry aka "primitive dispersed" campsites is what I am aiming for on my own land. So I'm avoiding county structure permits and putting my composting toilet on 4 pallets on wheels. His "homeless" camping section is the key point here. 

"The idea behind hitting the trail and camp out whenever is really key. I wish there were more locations where camping like this was permitted....that is an issue that I wish they would address in this document. So I was talking to a park ranger....we were chatting about this...and he gave me his explanation which to me makes a lot of sense. Basically he told me that there's a bit of a war on homelessness in this country, which we know about that. What states have done is they have outlawed camping - see those [fake quotes] - and it's basically just a precedent to sweep those who are living in tents away. Because that's a terminology that we be used to describe homelessness - camping! And that's made it difficult...." 

What what designated spaces are we talking about? Did this new law just make "primitive dispersed camping" illegal!! Holy moly - why didn't he title the video with that! Dang. That's HUGE change in U.S. freedom. John Muir just got outlawed? My future is relying on free dispersed primitive camping. I'm gonna look up this law now to look for the details. Why didn't he quote the law itself?! 

Backpacking tv Mike kind of hints at this... 

 Pilot protocols.—Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this title, and after public notice and comment, the Secretaries shall establish pilot protocols at not fewer than 10 land management units under the jurisdiction of each of the Secretaries to model recreation use patterns (including low-use recreation activities and dispersed recreation activities) that may not be effectively measured by existing general and opportunistic survey and monitoring protocols.

 So no "backcountry" mentioned in the doc - and one mention of "dispersed."....

OK so a park ranger told him there is a war against homelessness as camping on national forest land. Fair enough. Does this new law in any way connect to that issue? If so then in what way? The law mentions 10 "pilot sites" will change their "dispersed camping" rules. That sounds like code for this "war against homelessness" that the ranger mentioned - snuck into the new law! If this professional backpacker channel is talking about a new law you think he could investigate the context and true meaning of such phrases in the law. Talking to a park ranger is one way to investigate it but is he implying the park ranger was referring to the "dispersed campsite" mention in the new law? It would seem so but that is not clear is it. Very strange to even bring it up. You are emphasizing this professional backpacker wants to protect and expand backcountry camping - that's great - but at least explain what the new law actually does, and not rely on some supposed intention of something that doesn't exist. He has explained there is indeed a war on the homeless that is also a war on backcountry camping. OK - is that somehow in this new law as he is implying? OR was that just some bizarre side commentary that has nothing to do with the one reference to dispersed camping in the new law? He really should explain what he meant by that mention of homelessness in the context of the new law. 

 it looks fancy and there are a lot of these fancy tiny homes on wheels now being made. Yes too bad it's now illegal to sleep in your car or tiny home on public land, as per the Supreme Court. My state, Minnesota, passed a sacred sanctuaries law allowing religious structures (with all the facilities) to host tiny homes on wheels parked in their lots. So it's basically the "Single Room Occupancy" situation I used to live in - but is hard to find - with a shared kitchen/bathroom and a "room unit" for each person. A "tent unit" is similar to a "room unit" in this case - compared to a "dwelling unit" that requires the facilities. So a person who lives in an RV Park as their "primary residence" can do so legally since the park also has these "permanent facilities" like sewage and plumbing, etc. But with the composting toilet the "ecological sanitation" is different - and so that's why I have to move it around so it's a shelter and not a structure. The RV or Tiny Home or "readily removable" aka "portable structure" becomes a "dwelling unit" after six months of not being moved and the RV or camper trailer is required to be street legal to "move out" every six months. That is what my "RV shuffle" vid was about. So with the ecological sanitation of a composting toilet the claim is the "tent unit" can be moved by traveling on foot - legally a "camping trailer" needs to "travel" hahahaha. Also a "shelter" is "easily movable" with a "collapsing or folding structure" - compared to a "portable building" or "tiny home."

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