Saturday, May 27, 2023

Peter Wadhams: The Arctic is warming seven times faster than the rest of the planet! "very frightening"

 Peter Wadhams in new talk  starts about 55 minutes in.

um the ocean is warming very much faster than it used to um B uh in fact it says now uh reached a factor of seven compared to the speed at which um the you know the ocean surface waters were
warming so this is a huge acceleration an exponential growth in uh in CR seawater temperatures and um nobody knows why it's happening um it's but it's a factor it is a fact of the bus sudden in the Arctic compared to other other parts of the ocean so it used to be when when I was working in the Arctic a lot we'd have about two to three times the speed of of um warming the Arctic compared to other parts of the ocean uh and we'd uh we'd have to
work on that basis of what uh how fast the various other other parts of the
world were warming up but now that fractal has just gone up to seven
without any orange 
seven times as fast yeah if you look at the the Seas North of Europe that is the
balance sea uh currency um the season around spitsburg and that
that's seven times which is just incredible because that that's an amount
of warming which will get rid of all the sea ice very quickly and will make other
changes as well and then in fact the temperature changes have been incredible as well when you
look at those um the biggest warming has been in the
Seas North East of Europe uh so North Eastern America that is Canada at the
very the very Waters that we thought about uh being the place we should go to
to preserve sea ice um but instead in fact um is warming the
fastest of all there and there have been measurements of a warming of about 13
degrees uh in the Seas North of Newfoundland and Labrador and 13 degrees
uh is is simply not something that ever happens before you know you you get you
get changes in climate changes in in weather systems changes in in everything
now but it's always something measurable something you can
handle all right two or three degrees and then and that's it but this is now
if you're talking about 13 degrees this game over isn't it isn't anything
available that can possibly slow anything that's going
uh yes that's right it's a game
over situation but uh when we look at the uh oceanographers who are working
there it's only just been discovered how rapidless
growth is and and they're all they're sort of numbed like you you normally uh
when you look at an ocean scientists they're always very confident about they
measure something in the ocean which is a bit odd they'll say we have discovered that uh
such and such a c is now warmed up by one degree it's always we have
discovered because they really like to discover things that they can publish and get a promotions on
um but uh in this case we've got um they they they
has it incredibly hesitant to say we have discovered because if they if they
if people accept that that this is going on they have to try and explain it and
there's absolutely no explanation for why there should be such a rapid huge growth rate in temperature of uh
North Atlantic water this is something which can't be explained and so
therefore scientists say nothing about it until they can come up with some explanation so that it's mysterious
silence coming from the scientific Community about these extraordinary
warming rates of the ocean well
yes right there's no there's no known
way that um if you um if you look at say
Northeastern Atlantic and and it's warmed up by that amount what can you do
what do you do there's nothing that you can think of that you can actually do that will stop that
um it's a bit like the um in Siberia the
the the warming rates that are going on uh because of
um methane outbreaks a sort of methane explosions going on and um they're they're they
have huge amounts of heat involved there and not to mention the fact that a lot
of the the tundra is caught fire and is far burning away perpetually but there's
still not enough known about how you might possibly deal with it for people
to to talk about it so again there's a sort of a code of silence
  problems with with them
with Siberia and Siberian um methane outbreaks and that's another
forbidden this forbidden topics that the scientists don't like to talk about unless they can see some solution and if
they don't see the solution they just hope that nobody will notice that it's
happening
it depends if we if we're
talking about these uh um kind of fossil flows so to speak of
the way uh the world was uh in in June
uh into the last message that's one thing but things that are happening now
of an unprecedented and sudden and this this temperature rise is very sudden and
frightening for that reason that um you you you don't expect water
to warm up that quickly what what's warming it I mean you have to supply heat to to warm the water and if you if
you're looking at the Northeast Atlantic then you're you're dealing with a part
of the world that's where you you think you have some confidence about
um how warm it is uh how it changes with season
um you know you you if you're you know you think about all the people who've worked up there and sailed up there
and so on and uh they they know what temperatures the
water will reach um and so everything is uh you feel
confident and happy about it until suddenly you're going to take a thermometer out and and it gives you
temperatures 10 or 13 degrees warmer than it has any right to be
um it's it's a frightening Discovery and nobody knows how to explain it you'll
like him do you ever thought about it yeah yeah I've got a question for you
um 

well actually that's a good point um the uh in fact I I wrote a paper about that
with a colleague but I'm not quite sure that I remember the point we may but um
the the person who thought about that a lot uh was Walter Monk and he's he's a
kind of God well he actually died recently at the age of 102 but he's the
sort of God of oceanography um he he everybody acknowledges him as
as the person who who did more in oceanography than anybody else he's a
great man um and uh we we wrote a paper together on on uh changes due to Sea ice and what
he was doing and um he thought well look you're you're
you're dumping all this extra ice onto onto the ice sheets and uh you are
changing the the rotation of the earth because you're changing the the uh
um uh the what's the name of this am I
trying to remember my O-level physics uh it's the the
well when you have something rotating with a bigger moment
um then well the current coriolin Sports well it's it's moment of inertia
um but anyway the thing is you you will change the rate of rotation of the Earth
by a tiny amount if you uh alter the where you where you put the ice if you
melt the ice or you or you just redistribute it put it somewhere
um further away from the equator or closer to the pressure it's how far it is from the equator that matters
so we we wrote that up and um
that then he died soon after that and uh we
that was that was it uh as far as could they measure it I mean if if there had
been a change in the in the orbit or something I don't know what the word is but if there had been a change wouldn't
it wouldn't have been detected with some I don't know satellites or something
oh yes I mean I'm sure uh the day the time we wrote that was was
some time ago a few years ago but what you can do now
um is use this uh satellite called Grace
which means gravity gravity satellite uh you it is it's too it's very very clever
it's actually two satellites close together a few few kilometers apart
flying around the world together and uh as you fly and they're very heavy
deliberately heavy and when you fly over the edge of a continent like the edge of
Greenland one of the the satellite that's in the lead speeds up
um because of the change in the mass that's underneath it and then the second
satellite catches up on it so and they are very very accurate lasers to to work
out how far they are apart so these satellites slightly change their relative positions or through or through
the orbital period and and you can work out how uh how heavy it is well how
heavy is the ice underneath so it would tell you the the volume of eye the green
and ice sheet instance which you could never do before so that that ought to
also show what would happen if you altered the amount of ice
um due to this um this satellite orbit thing so I'm sure that that we can we
can measure it and somebody has measured it I'm sure uh so
it all in theory is can be solved and we we can see what's what's going on but um 
 
 the solar photons come in at high frequency and then radiate off Earth at infrared low frequency. The lowering of the frequency increases the entropy because in quantum physics the momentum of energy is directly proportional to the frequency. So as a particle goes towards the speed of light its frequency increases (and wavelength decreases) but also its time increases by slowing down, due to relativity. Logically, as Nobel physicist Louis de Broglie realized, this means since frequency is inverse to time, there HAS to be a time-reversed negative frequency signal that is a negentropy or negative entropy creating life on Earth from the gravitational potential energy. This is called the Law of Phase Harmony and was considered by Louis de Broglie to be his greatest discovery - unfortunately it's not taught in physics classes.
"Since heat capacity is always a positive value, entropy must increase as the temperature increases.Jul 20, 2022" 
You can read the book, "Life on the Edge" (2016 science award from the Royal Society" to learn more about negative entropy or Negentropy that was first discussed in Erwin Schrodinger's book, "What Is Life?" 1945 - as part of his quantum physics analysis.
So as the CO2 amount in the atmosphere increases this also increases the frequency range or wavelength range that resonates or absorbs and reflects back the infrared photon energy into earth from the atmosphere. This is why the top of the stratosphere is cooling while the lower atmosphere is heating up. The oceans absorb about 40% of the CO2 but over 90% of the heat. So there's over 250 Zettajoules of heat that have accumulated in the oceans since 1995, causing stratification of the oceans. This means the ocean temperature is no longer mixing correctly to drive the ecological dynamics for life on Earth since most of the oxygen for life on Earth is from the diatoms in the oceans. Again our current CO2 emissions is 100 times greater than in the past 500 million years.

3 comments:

  1. Do you remember talking about body dysmorphia between men and women and fruit trees? Do you have a link to research? Thanks

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    1. Hi Denis: I am not remembering anything - not quite sure what you mean - a body shape change due to fruit trees? You mean like the fructose right-handed sugar and original sin? Tony Wright argues the brain increase is from eating fruit. But the fructose is also a toxic that activates the vagus nerve as dopamine addiction. Maybe male and female primates have LESS biological dimorphism due to eating fruit - and thus changing or lowering the testosterone levels. That's what Tony Wright argues. thanks

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