Tuesday, June 28, 2022

Does the RadioFlyer wagon All Terrain wheel Model 22w really have thinner steel than the model 32z?

 Here is the 22W RadioFlyer model:

Highlights: Color : Red Material: Steel Dimensions: 16-1/4" W x 9-1/2" H x 37-1/4" L Recommended Age: 1-1/2 year Weight Capacity: 200 lb
 
Here is 32z:
 Radio Flyer Pneumatic Tire Wagon, 37-1/4 in Length, 18-1/2 in Width, 9-1/2 in Depth, Steel/Wood, Red, For Ages Over 1-1/2 Years
 
AH so it is 2 inches WIDER.
 
I could actually sit in this 32z wagon - I just put it together so the dog can pull me.
 
But will the steel hold? Is it really stronger steel?
 Also the model we received is model 32. Some people received the model 22w. These two model are different. The model 32 is about an inch bigger all around and the metal lip is an inch longer making it much easier grip and he metal bin seem much more heavy duty comparing to the 22w.

Well according to the specs it is the same length and depth but it is two inches wider.

So I got lucky because the 22W model is sold at the SAME price as the 32Z model - it seems no one notices the difference between the two models!!

Also some people report the tires offgassing a terrible toxic death smell while others don't notice any smell. I also got lucky with no smell noticeable. So my guess is that is based on the different models as well.

This 22w spec is definitely more narrow - 3 inches! Also shorter in length. 

  • Height: 20"
  • Length: 34.5"
  • Width: 15.25" 

So it seems the different Chinese factories making these wagons have different specs and different quality of materials.

 So a lot of people complain the wagon arrives all dent up - so that must be the thinner metal 22W model.

Platform length (in.)
33-5/8 in.
Platform maximum height (in.)
5-1/2 in.
Platform width (in.)
15-3/4 in.

Right so Harbor Freight sells the smaller model for a super cheap price - it's way cheaper than what I paid - but if it is thinner metal and not as wide then it simply would NOT work for my intended purpose.

I put the shipping box cardboard into the wagon to displace the weight better - the "double wall" cardboard with the air insulation holds 60 to 150 pounds - so it's good to help displace the load on the metal of the wagon. So the wagon held so far!!

 Also the cheaper version has the wheels made of plastic (or at least some very noxious rubber) and that's why they smell so toxic.

Just because the wheels have air in them doesn't mean the wheels are not plastic!! 

The more expensive wagon that I bought has rubber wheels - not plastic.

 Now how do we find the steel thickness? Let's try Alibaba - I have reverse engineered chinese factory parts using Alibaba before.

Sure enough - here is the CHEAP model of the imitation Radioflyer wagon that Harbor Freight sells

 So they pay $34.50 per wagon and sell them for $60.

So these are the ones with very thin metal and very noxious smelling tires.

I thought I recognized that factory - they made my fertilizer spreader also! That fertilizer spreader is good enough to do the job...

Another factory sells the wagon for $15 each!! Wow.

Here's a third company selling the same time of wagon.

No wonder the quality varies so much.

two more companies!!

This one has a much better handle design

 Still don't know the thickness of the steel.

I should have looked up what factory was on the box!! Oops.

Finally!! 

11)Tray thickness:0.6mm

 OK this one is definitely higher quality

 It's not the RadioFlyer wagon but it's similar. So what's that rating for steel?

23 gauge? Wow... what's duct pipe gauge?

24 gauge.

So yeah that's some seriously thin metal. Only a bit thicker than Duct Metal!! Hilarious.

So what's fascinating is that all these different wagons use the SAME accessory parts for the axles and steering, etc.

Here's the supposed "Classic" RadioFlyer wagon - it has PVC wheels!! Egads!!

 Here it is marketed on Amazon for $122

What's the "classic" wholesale price from Alibaba? $18 each!!! hahahaha.

Quite the markup!!

Well I couldn't find the particular RadioFlyer model but it's maybe the same factory that makes that "classic" PVC model.

 Durable PVC pneumatic wheels with a quiet ride

 There you go - that's why people's wheels stink so badly!!! Crazy - the "air" wheels are PVC!!

Luckily mine are not pvc tires.


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