You guys need to get over this covid hysteria. Come back to reality.
80% of the covid deaths are people 65 years or old. 85 years and older have a 370 times increased rate of covid death. More people got killed than in WWII in the U.S. - yes as long as we don't care about the elderly then we can keep playing "pretend."
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang 85 year olds... How long do you think people live? The life expectancy in US was 78.94 years in 2015, which was the high.
@Miika Törmä females live 7 years longer than males on average. Nature is female. If a person is alive and healthy no need to be ageist. Life expectancy depends on a lot of factors and varies widely based on what community a person lives in.
"Hawaii took the top spot for the state with the highest average life expectancy at 81 years. The Aloha State was followed by California, New York, Minnesota, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Washington, Colorado, New Jersey and Rhode Island to round out the top 10 states where you'll live the longest."
So an individual average changes dramatically. Where I live the elderly are expected to live into their 90s. Most live into their late 80s I think. So the average life expectancy for females in my county is over 83 years old. And that's the AVERAGE. Most people like to think of themselves as above average - like in school did you get Cs? I got As and Bs... So that would put a female into the 90s where I live. That is the expectation of the older females I know. thanks
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang did you write about females in your comment? Not explicitly so I took it to mean both. Japan had the highest life expectancy in the world in 2015. It was 83.62 for both and 86.41 for women. So covid deaths affecting 85 year olds (I'd imagine that's some kind of average also) would be fairly unnewsworthy in most places.
@Miika Törmä people are not an "average" - human rights are universal. You're confusing average with "median." An average means a lot more people live older than that. Human rights means people have an inherent right to live as long as they want to try to live. That does not give other people the right to knowingly spread a deadly disease. Sorry but your logic is really flawed - unless you're a Nazi. haha.
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang in both average and median there are cases above and below the number, I understand that. People certainly have the right to try and live as long as they can, I'm not rejoicing at anyone's death here. My point is that people always die of something. It virtually never reads in a death certificate that a person died of old age. It's always something, influenza, heart failure, brain infarct, something. After certain age people get frail and with or without covid we eventually pass on.
@Miika Törmä yes only in the past two years more people have died than during WWII in the U.S. and 80% of those people are the elderly. So how has that affected the "normal" death rate?
"One in 100 older Americans has died from the virus. For people younger than 65, that ratio is closer to 1 in 1,400."
So clearly if someone is elderly then by wearing a mask and taking other preventative measures their odds of staying alive are much greater than someone younger than 65.
"According to the SSA’s 2014 period life table*, male life expectancy at birth is 76 years. That’s the mean value. The median life expectancy is just past age 80. And the mode (i..e, most common) age at death is age 86....The same relationship holds true for females at birth, for the same reasons. Specifically, according to the SSA’s 2014 period life table: Mean life expectancy at birth is 81 years, Median life expectancy at birth is roughly 84.5 years, and Mode age at death is 89 years."
So the difference is based on at what point in your life are you starting the "expectancy" measurement. So if someone is 25 years old then an 85 year old has 370 times increased chance of death than a 25 year old - but the most common age at death is from 86 to 89 years old - from a 25 year old perspective.
So you are trying to equate a chronic cause of death with a preventable acute cause of death. You are basically telling the elderly to stop wearing their seatbelts because they are going to die of heart disease!! It makes absolutely no sense and it's an immoral argument.
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang at no point did I give policy recommendations. Yes, we live with many preventable deaths and causes of them, always have, always will. If the goal is to minimise all loss of life (in years) then the elderly might want to consider staying out of cars altogether.
@Miika Törmä No 45% of car deaths are from not wearing seat belts. So wearing a seat belt cuts the death rate by half. Whereas the difference between someone under 65 and over 65 death rate for Covid is a TEN TIMES difference at minimum. For over 85 years old it is a 370 times death rate increase. So once again your claim of not riding in a car fails.
There are easy measures to take for the elderly to dramatically lower their death risk from Covid. It's not the same as driving a car since the accident rate is just one accident per life. This resulted in 11.0 deaths per 100,000 people for cars - so that's 1 death per 10,000 and again if a seatbelt is worn the death rate immediately reduces by half to 1 death per 20,000 whereas the Covid death rate is at least 1 per 100 for those 65 and older who test positive.
Omicron isn't ravaging anything , it's mild and doesn't affect the lungs like previous variants. If you are vaccinated and otherwise healthy you might feel some discomfort for a day or two.
I'm so glad I can rely on youtube comments for my future. Thanks!!
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang honestly…. YouTube comments and MSM hold the same validity these days.
Yeah felt like a bag of shite for 3 days, 4th day now not so bad, good thing it didn't affect my lungs as I got asthma with no access to inhalers atm
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang Not youtube, look it up for yourself out of the South African studies. Yes, MSM don't report this because ... well ... you know ... it's MSM ;-)
@MR_RPO007 Blood supplies reach 'dangerously low levels,' worst in over a decade "Currently we have a critical level for O-, which is the universal blood type given during emergencies. This one day's supply serves a large region (Nebraska, Kansas, New York City, MN) and one major bleed could rapidly deplete the supply leaving other patients with a very limited supply of blood." Think I'll donate asap. Nationwide emergency.
@MR_RPO007 Thanks for your inspiration to keep it real bro! scheduled for two weeks from now.
@MR_RPO007 So you don't think 80% of the Covid deaths in the US have been 65 years or older? I realize it's trendy to not care about the elderly. I live with someone who has a 370 times greater chance of drying from the pandemic than a 19 to 25 year old. It is very funny though isn't it. haha. Yeah I got boosted at Walmart while my buddy got a "rapid test" at Walmart that showed he was positive and so he couldn't go to work and now he's in recovery. Personally I don't have any regrets.
@MR_RPO007 a flu shot is once a year. I've never gotten one. The flu has an R-naught of 2.5 or so while Omicron is R-naught of 10. Pretty sure I'll get it soon as people are idiots. I did buy N95 masks for me and my elderly relative. But the rest of my family is insisting on exposing their elderly relative. It's sick and due to mass mind control.
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang I can only hope that most of us catch this variant, so we can develop natural antibodies. Hmmm, but interesting that over 90% of the people that have been hospitalized with Commie-Cron were all vaccinated. Hmmmm ....
@MR_RPO007 I appreciate you sharing your views. I just read the actual science paper on the new 30 variants found in Omicron. The research shows that getting Omicron confers a 50% protection against future infection while the booster vaccine confers 60% infection protection against Omicron on average (from Pfizer - a bit better from Moderna). As for the other claim: "Of the 43 cases attributed to the omicron variant, 34 people had been fully vaccinated. 14 of the fully vaccinated people had also received a booster, however, five of those 14 omicron cases occurred less than 14 days after the additional shot before full protection kicks in. When looking at early statistics like these, it's important to remember that ascertainment and observation bias matter. Currently, 72% of U.S. adults are fully vaccinated. The vast majority of omicron cases detected so far in the U.S. have been related to adults participating in international and domestic travel. We can expect that the vaccination rate among this pool of people is much higher than the general U.S. population." and
"The worst-case scenario with the new variant could be 20 percent more US Covid-19 deaths than last winter. ..omicron is 25 to 50 percent more transmissible, according to some UK estimates....The UT model currently assumes that omicron’s severity is the same as with delta in unvaccinated people with no prior infection, and that protection against severe illness from prior infection and vaccines may be similar or reduced...At the same time, the delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 is continuing to wreak havoc, having recently pushed the US death toll above 800,000. "
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang I also appreciate all your regurgitation of statistics and information funneled from random news reports and MSM media. You must be getting paid a decent amount of money to be spewing all these inaccurate numbers. Good for you! $$$ is the way to go!! Some good old hard CASH my brother! Again, over 90% of the citizens that have been admitted to the hospitals have all been vaccinated. over 90%! Over 90%! Try to assess and ingest those numbers. No no no, all different types of scenarios, probabilities, contributing factors, blah blah blah don't really matter. The fact remains. the POISON ain't working! And if we want to regurgitate studies and scientific data accumulated from reliable sources, let's look no further than the leading epidemiology centers in South Africa. Yes, where this mysterious Commie-Cron variant first magically appeared. I won't educate you with the real actual statistics, as I don't get paid to regurgitate as you do. But look it up Paid Bot, you might be astonished. Or..... maybe not, because after-all you do have your agenda to propagate and follow, right? ;-) 72% of adults vaccinated in US?? Where did you get these numbers? CNN? HA HA HA!! Go reel in the sheep asswipe! 2 years and counting, and I haven't caught as much as a common cold along with my family and friends and almost everyone I've communicated with. Dr Malone. Dr McCullough have had their best laughs yet seeing this. Keep on babbling Bot!
@MR_RPO007 Wow - I read an actual science paper and you freaked out, claiming I must be paid to post youtube comments. Hilarious. Your repeated claim has me very curious - from where did you get this? OH now I discovered why: "The audio was edited to make it appear that Harris said most people in hospitals with COVID-19 were vaccinated. In the original, unaltered video, Harris said that most people in the hospital were unvaccinated. The original clip can be seen in a live stream published on July 12, 2021" - sorry you got victimized by fake news. Again I find this fascinating! The truth is the OPPOSITE of what you are claiming (due to a fake edited vid). Sorry to burst your bubble buddy. "97% Of People Entering Hospitals For COVID-19 Are Unvaccinated" That's from the same time as the FAKE lie quote you obviously were misled by. Let's get a more recent source. "Unvaccinated Covid Patients Push Hospital Systems Past the Brink"..."When cases peaked in September, the least-vaccinated counties typically saw 1 in 4 hospital beds occupied by Covid patients, according to data from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. There were about half as many Covid patients in the best-vaccinated places....In mid-September, hospitals in Kentucky were more full with Covid patients than they ever had been: Of the 7,190 adults hospitalized in the state for any reason, more than 30% had confirmed or suspected Covid, according to data from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Three months later, many hospital ICUs were still dealing with those patients."
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang Oh PAID BOT, go away! And stop using the word "actual". A true indication of your fraudulence. Post some of those "scientific" papers you've been regurgitating over, ACTUALLY. You're spewing out numbers with no ACTUAL evidence. Post those ACTUAL links you're referring to.
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Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang" has cater-pillared away with NO ACTUAL evidence. GO MSM!!!
@MR_RPO007 that's funny - my response got censored. Let me get that for you again. This is the title of the paper: "The hyper-transmissible SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant exhibits significant antigenic change, vaccine
escape and a switch in cell entry mechanism" - just search it and it's free to read. Enjoy.
the only mandates I'm aware of are indeed corporate-state mandates but they usually seem to have an "out" by allowing an alternative of routine testing before each work day. So the problem with the rapid tests, as Michael Osterholm points out, is that the antigen reading is not very sensitive while a PCR test would prove the person is indeed positive. So there is still a window where a person can be asymptomatic and contagious - and the rapid test would not pick it up. I think that's been a big issue as early research showed that at least 25% of the spread of COVID was from asymptomatic - if not 50% of the spread.
Now there's 10 mutations to the spike protein of the COVID for Omicron thereby making it bind much easier to ACE-2 receptor, thereby requiring much LESS virus to attach inside the body and self-replicate at a very fast rate. That's why Omicron only has a 2 to 3 day incubation time and spreads so fast with a R-naught value up to R-10, meaning that each infected person in turn infects 10 more people. People REALLY underestimate the power of Mother Nature.
So for me - the best medicine is prevention and Ginger is proven to bind to ACE-2 receptor thereby preventing the spike protein from binding. This is why ginger is such a great antiviral - so I buy ginger in bulk and take tons all the time. Then a N95 mask is required to prevent the Omicron as the cloth mask is ineffective against Omicron. The vaccine booster shot is 60% effective against omicron for up to ten weeks - after that the antibody levels have dropped to one tenth the level after the vaccine. So the rapid B cell response should still be effective.
So as far as corporate-state fascist mind control - keep in mind that UNLESS you are moving on a public sidewalk then you are NOT protected by the Bill of Rights - and even then it is of course questionable. If a cop is afraid then the cop can kill anyone - as we all know very well by now.
So the corporate-state means a corporation has legal Bill of Rights protection since the railroads of the late 1800s - and so this means the 14th amendment that provides privacy protection is applied MORE to corporations than to actual real living people. So for example the 14th amendment privacy was based on the colonialists against being forced to HOUSE British military troops. But now if a family member calls the cops to do a "SAFETY health check" then the cop can bust in and "be afraid" and murder the person.
So clearly our "healthcare" system is based on fascist mass mind control. ONLY in the U.S. and New Zealand is big pharma allowed to do corporate advertising of prescription drugs.
I worked in a biomedical genetic engineers lab as an undergraduate part-time job at UW-Madison - and I quit the job. I was an animal caretaker and I sliced mouse brains for down to 10 microns as cancer genetic engineered research. So I am well aware - in fact the original mRNA research was done at UW-Madison over 12 years ago and that was the basis for this mRNA revolution in vaccines - now they want mRNA vaccines for all sorts of viral infections.
The problem is that the origin of the coronavirus is most likely due to the wildlife trade in the Pangolin, an endangered species, just as the similar Ebola virus or HIV spread from humans encroaching on previous wild areas of the equatorial rainforest. Over 50% of Earth's biodiversity in species is from the equatorial rainforest - so we are opening a can of worms to be sure.
So yes Big Pharma genetic engineering is the problem but it is symptomatic of a larger and deeper problem of scientific "progress" itself - and in this sense just as "smart phones" are now required to be a full human - to get a job and have security codes, etc. - so too is genetic engineered now "required" for biomedical "health."
There is a brain cancer epidemic from cell phones yet who complains about that? Hardly anyone - in fact if you do people think you're crazy. So in fact the mRNA vaccine is not that big of a deal. It is NOT gene therapy because the mRNA does not enter into the DNA of the cell. The mRNA creates a protein that is designed to NOT attach to the ACE-2 receptor and thus it does NOT spread in the body.
Big Pharma is not necessarily out to kill people off. It's more that the patent system of Big Pharma and Big Ag - the Cargill-Monsanto partnership for example - is based on a long history of Western "progress" - going back to using the plow even.
Westerners believe in "linear time" as progress - our mind control is deep indeed - and yet now our concept of progress and even our belief in science is being questioned. Science CREATED abrupt global warming and science is not going to save us. The arctic ice will soon be gone and the methane bomb will go off - and soon it will be too hot to grow food at scale.
Big Pharma vaccines are not the problem nor are they the real solution. I tried to upload a video on ginger blocking the ACE-2 receptor but of course it got censored. haha. We can not PATENT real ecology - the natural medicines.
So for those of us old enough enough - the grandparents REMEMBER the Polio vaccine - no one fought against it much because Polio was such a painful crippling disease that put people into a lung machine for a slow death. It ravaged our towns and yet the vaccine has proven to be effect - same with measles.
So vaccines are just a byproduct of all the plagues that intensive animal domesticated farming has spread from West Asia. The chariot was developed to run away from plagues and expand outward - same with the catapult - to double the catapult size precisely required the Greek Miracle of irrational magnitude math. Yet that was called forth by the Goddess to END THE PLAGUE.
Read "Ecological Imperialism" by Professor Alfred Crosby - the last 500 years has been White Western civilization spreading plagues across the earth that has caused biological annihilation. The real issue is the denial of the ecological crisis. Just search "biological annihilation" into googlescholar.
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