The amount of energy and momentum that a body has depends on who is looking. The same vehicle that moves very fast (has lots of kinetic energy, lots of momentum) relative to me may appear to be at rest (no kinetic energy, no momentum) to you, if you are traveling alongside in another vehicle at the same speed.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-photon-massless-if-it-has-energy
Why does someone have to "look" (i.e. make an external measurement) for a photon to have mass or not? If we LISTEN to the source of a photon then while it has a zero rest frame it STILL has relativist mass as momentum energy from the future. The conservation of momentum is violated by de Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony. That scientist conveniently ignores the de Broglie-Einstein relation. oops.
So, based on these ideas, one might flip your question around. Why on Earth should a particle have to have mass in order to carry energy or momentum?
It can have NEGATIVE mass as Yakir Aharonov's research group has proven - they call it "Negaparticles."
The formulaapplies only to particles that are not moving and have no momentum.
I cannot emphasize the bolded statement enough.
Misunderstanding the above statement leads to the confusion that all energy has mass or that energy is a type of mass. This is exactly wrong.
Mass is a type of energy.
So all mass contains energy, but all energy does not contain mass.
exactly - and that's where the deeper meaning of momentum gets ignored.
They do have gravitational mass, meaning they respond to gravity; higher energy means more “mass” and response to gravity. However, they do not have any rest mass, because they are moving at the speed of light and can never be at rest.
In reality, they have momentum. Momentum is usually a better way to discuss the energy of a photon, because though it doesn’t have any bound mass, like I said, they do respond to gravity, by their momentum.
yes and what does this imply? Negative frequency is also directly proportional to momentum!!
Bertrand theorem shows that the inverse square of gravity or electricity is a direct consequence of momentum conservation.
Yes only Noncommutative Phase shows there is a deeper level of momentum as frequency-time before any "squaring" or "inverse squaring."
Even time itself is created when radiation is trapped forming a rest mass. This is from counting the number of rotations/oscillations of the trapped radiation.. it is the Zitterbewegung electron clock of Dirac.
This is noncommutative phase.
The early universe was pure radiation as per our present knowledge. The mass was then created after expansion and cooling down.
Photons do not have mass, because they propagate waves of energy. They are just packets of energy. Sound waves are also made of energy only. Sound waves are not made of particles. Sound waves also have no mass, even though they are made of energy.a
Actually sound waves have been shown to be Anti-Gravity!!
The photon is a quantum(packet of energy) has no rest mass(m)because it is never at rest,it is a particle- like light propety,its energy as a relativistic particle (with no rest mass)is E = pc, where p is its momentum given by p=h/ L,where h is Planck constant and L is the wave length associateted with it( duality property).
Also E= hf= hc/L=c(h/L)=pc.
No one can writr p= Mc ,where M here is a relativistic mass( due to the relativistic speed c), from this one might conclude the formula
E= Mc^2.
However like the ocean wave, the photon can push you. That’s why there’s such a thing as Compton scattering:
. Then imagine what would happen if you could catch that photon in a gedanken mirror-box. It would still be travelling at c, but now it’s going round and round inside the box, so in aggregate it has no motion relative to you. Now when you try to push the box, the photon still exhibits a resistance to change of motion. But now we don’t call it energy any more. Or momentum. We call it mass.
OK NOW imagine if your MIND as FORMLESS AWARENESS or pure time WAS the mirror - IS the mirror - and therefore you can create light and also push light around as anti-gravity energy.
That’s where Einstein said this: “if one were to pursue a light wave with the velocity of light, one would be confronted with a time-independent wave field. Such a thing doesn’t seem to exist, however”. However it does.
Precisely!! https://physicsdetective.com/the-mystery-of-mass-is-a-myth/
There’s a handy little paper by Martin van der Mark and Gert (not the Nobel) ‘t Hooft called Light is Heavy. It talks about a balance scale, and explains why a box containing hot gas is heavier than a box containing cold gas. Imagine something like a gedanken spring steel box in space full of gedanken spring steel bullets ricocheting around inside. When you push the box, you have to push against the bullets bouncing off the side you’re pushing against. When I tap my magic wand and make those bullets move faster, you find it harder to get the box moving. So the box has more mass. Hence “although nothing at all is at rest inside the box, the gravitational mass is equal to the rest mass of the box as a whole”.
you have to push against the photons bouncing off the side you’re pushing against.
So if you are EMITTING light from inside you and you close your eyes and TURN that light around then now the light is pushing against the side you are pushing against internally (as a listening perception of pure time).
When I tap my magic wand and increase the photon frequency, you find it harder to get the box moving. So the box has more mass. It’s heavier too, because gravity bends the light down so it exerts more force on the bottom of the box than the top:
So that means the HIGHER the frequency of the light the HARDER it is to push against that light being reversed and therefore the STRONGER the anti-gravity energy created as per the Law of Phase Harmony.
the photon will look like a standing wave. Standing wave, standing field. It will look like a time-independent wave field. It will look like it’s standing still. Then when you open the box, what you’re holding in your hands is a radiating body that loses mass. The photon is out of the box in a flash. It departs at c from a standing start. But it wasn’t really a standing start. Because whilst the photon looked like a standing wave, it was always going around and around at c, all the time. Its path changed, that’s all. From a closed path to an open path.
The van der Mark and ‘t Hooft paper points out that elementary particles have non-zero spin, which “seems to imply that they all must have some sort of intrinsic dynamics”. You betcha. If the electron didn’t have any internal dynamics it wouldn’t have a magnetic moment. It wouldn’t go around in circles in a uniform magnetic field. So yes, “one could say matter is just ‘canned’ energy, a box with internal dynamics, and radiation is free energy”. That’s the size of it. That’s why the mass of a body is a measure of its energy content. The mass of an electron is not some measure of its interaction with distant objects, as per Mach’s principle. Nor is it some measure of its interaction with some kind of cosmic treacle. Because the electron isn’t a fundamental particle. It’s a 511 keV photon in a box of its own making. So is a positron, albeit with the opposite chirality.
yes and so when we turn the light around we are resonating with the opposite chirality as noncommutative phase of time itself before "mass" as space.
We start with two high-energy photons, we perform gamma-gamma pair production such that a photon interacts with a photon, and the result is an electron and a positron. Because each photon ends up interacting with itself, and stays interacting with itself, wrapped and trapped as a spin ½ particle. The result is mass, and all we did was convert linear momentum into angular momentum.
exactly - this is what Tesla was referring to. The linear momentum.
because of conservation of angular momentum, and because those photons are the only tool in the box. Not only that, but they are the box. The electron has mass because a photon interacts with itself, not with something else. When it does, we don’t call it momentum any more, we call it mass. We don’t call it a photon any more. We call it an electron. We don’t call it light any more. We call it matter.
The photon is energy. And matter is made of it.
When you take all the kinetic energy away from a wave in the surf, it just isn’t there any more. So the wave is energy. It’s the same for a photon. When you take all the kinetic energy away from a wave in space, it just isn’t there any more. So the photon is kinetic energy.
We call it mass-energy. Or potential energy. Or field energy. Only there’s angular momentum in this field, and a secret Poynting vector going around and around. Because of this, electrons have their dipole magnetic moment, and go round in circles, helixes, or spirals in a uniform magnetic field. Or drift in a non-uniform magnetic field. That’s why we have magnets. That’s why when you annihilate that electron with a positron you see 511 keV photons racing away at the speed of light. From a standing start. Because in atomic orbitals and everywhere else, electrons exist as standing waves. Standing wave, standing field. Standing waves that only look like they’re standing still.
Meaning there is no "rest mass" because everything is photons and there is NO zero. There is the wave as eternal motion energy as noncommutative phase that CREATES matter from 1/2 spin or noncommutative phase.
But it can never go as fast as light because it is light, going around and around. Accelerating an electron can be likened to stretching a helical spring. Getting the electron moving is like deforming an open circle of spring steel into one turn of a helix. The energy required increases as we attempt to deform it further. As we accelerate more and more, the helix is effectively stretched straighter and straighter. But a photon travels at c, it can’t travel in a straight line at c and still be going around in circles at c. It would have to go faster than light to do that. And light doesn’t go faster than light. So matter can’t travel as fast as light. Matter can’t go faster than the light from which it’s made.
Yes that is the limitation of matter by Time can go faster than light speed. https://physicsdetective.com/the-proton/
OK. We know that gluons are supposed to be bosons like photons are bosons. We know that when you trap a massless photon in a mirror-box you increase the mass of the system. The Wikipedia article continues: “most of a proton’s mass comes from the gluons that bind the current quarks together, rather than from the quarks themselves. While gluons are inherently massless, they possess energy… and it is this that contributes so greatly to the overall mass of protons (see mass in special relativity)”.
Let’s open the box
That matches what we know about the photon in the box. When you open the box, the photon departs at c, and the box is a radiating body that loses mass, just like Einstein said in his E=mc² paper. We can then say that electron-positron annihilation is rather like opening one box with another, whereupon each is a radiating body that loses all its mass and then there’s no boxes left. Because the electron is like a photon in a box of its own making. Photon momentum is a measure of resistance to change-in-motion for a wave moving linearly at c, whilst electron mass is a measure of resistance to change-in-motion for a wave going around and around at c. And electron charge is what you get when you wrap a field-variation into a spin ½ standing-wave spinor configuration. Standing wave, standing field. OK, that hangs together. So, let’s break the proton open and take a look at all those zillions of quarks and gluons spilling out like beans from a bag. Get your bubble chamber ready, let’s open the box.
Fascinating - once again!!
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