Tuesday, March 23, 2021

secret ingredient of rust buster "Metal Rescue": Phosphonate Salt got switched to Citric acid

 

 http://apkgroup.com/msds/english/MSDS%20by%20Supplier/Work%20Shop%20Hero%20(WSH)/WH570295-F(10-27-2018).pdf

 I found this and then LOST it and now found it again. Otherwise it's NOT listed in the MSDS and called "proprietary."

Anticorrosive paint

Abstract

ABSTRACT OF THE DISCLOSURE
An anti-corrosive coating composition includes an anti-corrosive pigment component comprising (a) a salt comprising a polyvalent metal cation and an organic poly-phosphonic acid containing at least 2 phosphonic acid groups and (b) a corrosion passivator capable of modifying the metal oxide film on the metal to be protected to render it more protective. The ratio of the polyphos-phonate salt (a) to the passivator (b) in the coating composition is 1:1 to 50:1 by weight.

So a patent on a PAINT with the same ingredient.

It's considered 10 times less powerful than phosphoric acid but at the same time it's not corrosive except ONLY to rust (iron oxide - converting to ferric phosphate). https://www.armorvci.com/wp-content/uploads/METAL-RESCUE-Product-Data-Sheet.pdf

 

 so I put a bunch on the car - about half the jar. It goes fast - so is expensive but you don't have to worry about eating the concrete or your hands or skin. My hands got eaten up badly from the phosphoric acid. haha. Also my face a bit.

But this stuff stops working once dried out - and so - not sure how it will work.

It's ten times less as strong.

So more like Tannic Acid - essentially the same thing.

 https://blasterproducts.com/blaster-corporation-acquires-workshop-hero-brand-becomes-manufacturer-and-retail-distributor-of-metal-rescue-products/

  Metal Rescue Rust Remover GEL: Formulated to cling to metal, this citric-acid gel is ideal for removing spot rust in a hard-to-reach area, on vertical surfaces, or on an item that cannot be soaked. It contains no harmful or corrosive acids.

OH so looks like they changed their formula...

  There are a variety of weak acids that will react with rust and remove it, and each one works a bit differently. Tannic acid, oxalic acid, citric acid, and Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA), can all be used as an industrial rust remover.

Hmmm

 https://blasterproducts.com/product/metal-rescue-rust-remover-gel/

I think I got the PREVIOUS owner - so hopefully it's the Phosphonate Salt product and not the citric acid.

But it smells like citric acid I think.... although Phosphoric acid also has that tangy smell to be sure.

 Nope I got the NEW "Blaster" formula. dang.

What's the strength difference? wow between 3 and 6 pH - quite weak indeed.

Yes it can react but may not dissolve a lot of the Fe2O3

The reaction is as follows :

C6H8O7 + Fe2O3 → 2 FeO + 6 CO + 2 H2O + 2 H2

in this case you’ll see bubbles formed.

But it is possible that there is no bubble forming, then iron citrate is formed :

Fe2O3 + C6H8O7 = Fe2C6H2O7 + 3H2O

A 10% C6H8O7 is normally used ( optimal) and if possible heat the solution .

It is not a blitz reaction give it time.

E.g. : It is industrial even used in beating rust in water pipes in nuclear reactors:

meanwhile back to phosphonate salt: Anti-corrosion compound for the preventive and curative treatment of metal reinforcement enclosed in mortar and concrete

 The subject of the present invention is a basic anti-corrosion combination characterized by the combination of an anti-rust agent, known or not, with: a polyfunctional complexing agent, phosphonic derivative in the form of an amine salt, which exacerbates them anti-rust properties, and, - a bi-polar solvent that facilitates the spreading, and improves the anti-rust protection.This basic anti-corrosion combination is used either: ▪ To obtain an anti-corrosion composition for preventive treatments in which case an additive, deflocculant, plasticizer, fluidifier, rheology agent in the form of an amine salt is added to the anti-corrosion base. To obtain an anti-corrosion composition for curative treatments, in which case it is added to the anti-corrosion base an additive consisting of wetting, diffusing, polar solvent facilitating the penetration, diffusion and tracking of the anti-corrosion combination through the micro channels of the materials.

 Hint: one reason citric acid works pretty well is because the salt it forms is more soluble than something like iron phosphate, so it leaves the surface allowing further attack.

 https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/68994/aceticvinegar-and-citric-acid-as-the-rust-remover

OK I get it now.

 https://www.armorvci.com/news/industrial-rust-removal-acids-and-water-based-solutions-explained/

“This partnership came together at the same time that our lab completed its year-long work to speed up the time it takes Metal Rescue to remove rust, which means the Metal Rescue formulation is now 2X faster than the previous version!” said Yancho.
wow - we'll see what happens

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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