Wednesday, November 4, 2020

New 3F UL tent Wood Stove arrives tomorrow? Silver Fire Hunter Stove as rocket stove indoor mass heater?

 So I'm supposed to get the new 3F UL tent stove tomorrow!

vid demo of stove 

So I got a "Pool Noodle" - something I had never heard of - a long foam swim tool - to help the FIRST roll of the stove pipe. This is because very thin stainless steel can tear - not just the "creases" that can happen from the titanium stove pipe.

So ideally you want two people rolling the stove pipe the first time. But I'll see what happens. Maybe I can get help.

And then I was researching Rocket Mass Heaters - turns out they continue to update their designs.

And the designs are CLOSER to what I already have! The Silver Fire Hunter "batch" rocket mass heater.

Here is someone using it for indoor heating - vid 

So my plan is to add this to the hut as a supplementary indoor heater for when it is super cold.

here it is - indoor vid

So I intentionally have my hut very Airy - lots of ventilation - plus lots of Insulation. So that way I can get smoke inside and it clears out quick. But also when I heat - it is soaked up by the insulation and then releases slowly.

So with the Hunter stove - I don't have to build some fancy masonry "batch" mass heater since the Hunter already is a batch load stove and a rocket mass heater as well.

The latest design is to use "ceramic fiber" for the rocket Heat Riser. What does Silver Fire use?


 

 Yeah that's what I thought - Silver Fire DOES use Ceramic Fiber!

So the Mass Rocket Heater DIY scene is calling this the "Five Minute Riser" as the BEST heat riser design! haha. took them a while to catch up with Silver Fire.

So I have not used the Hunter Stove that much and I was thinking of building a Mass Rocket Heater stove. But I don't like doing any "precision" construction based on "leveling" and "squaring" and "plumbing" and Freemasonry in general.

So the Hunter Stove is good to go as an alternative mass heater because WATER is the best mass to store heat.

I'll probably need to find another huge pot for more water storage. 

And then I will use one of the tipis - the small canvas one - as my new composting humanure teepee and I'll stick one of my home made wood stoves in there....

We'll see how the Silicone Treatment turns out! I got very lucky as the ONLY local source of the Silicone Camp Dry spray was literally removing the product of the shelf today. Tomorrow would have been too late. haha. I had to reach down into the Tote storage bin - and so I grabbed two of them.

So it seems to be working - I could not smell the PVC anymore - after I did one drying session of the silicone - at noon.

So I'll do one more spray session on the silicone and then set up the tipi this weekend when I farm sit for my old University meditation activist buddy who helps run a regenerative carbon storage pasture farm.

So then if and when I camp in the winter - this Hunter stove weighs 14 pounds which is the same as a small iron camp stove. So then I can strap the Hunter stove to the back of the bicycle and since the new stainless steel stove packs into a small bag and folds down - then I can store that in my back pack - my canvas bag.

So then I can use the Hunter stove for over the night Mass Heating in the tent - since it will obviously be very cold in the winter. While the smaller stove will be good for quick heat but I will have to feed it more often and it can't hold as much mass heat since it's not as sturdy.

this lightweight, easy to mange stove (14 lbs). It is approximately half the weight of most rocket stoves on the market, due to the quality lightweight insulation, stainless steel construction, compared to other manufacturers using mild steel and cheap clay for insulation.

https://www.silverfire.us/hunter-stove

Somebody was commenting how they need to have really dry wood for their rocket mass heater or else they get smoke. I then was reminded of the Hunter stove which is also finicky. I figured why BUILD a mass rocket heater stove when I already have one!! If they're both finicky with wood and smoke then no point in wasting my time.

 

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