Does a “system” have Free Will? Could someone define a “system” for me? Do living, conscious system’s have natural boundaries? The physicalist assumes the natural boundary is the brain/skull and then goes searching for signs that the physical brain could give a physicalist version of freedom, perhaps in the form of chaotic neural trajectories and/or some quantum or other neural randomness. Sadly, this kind “freedom” is nothing like my freedom to choose honey over marmalade for breakfast or the felt intention of stirring a cup of coffee? What about consciousness as a “system” irreducible to the brain? My conscious mind seems to have a natural boundary that keeps my thoughts and intentions private and unique to myself (leaving the possibility for mental telepathy and mind control aside), but my experience also encapsulates the entire world beyond the confines of my brain. The coffee cup is located outside my head, not in it. The “system” is then extended in space-time to include not just my body and my brain, but the coffee cup as well. There is no simple location in either space-time where my “free” act of stirring the coffee cup is located, yet there does still seem to some conscious entity called “me” that is separate from the world. This is the “boundary problem” as mentioned by Gregg Rosenberg. The boundary problem, lies at the heart of the “hard problem” when we scratch our heads and ask: why should this physical system - a brain - have qualia, or free will, while this physical system - a rock, say - does not? What makes the natural boundary of these physical systems anyway? This problem comes up also with Karl Friston’s Predictive Coding when he talks about “Markov Blankets.” Friston describes living systems in terms of the abstract mathematical notion of Markov blankets, but can’t tell us where to naturally place these blankets or boundaries around living systems without being to some degree arbitrary. I’m not sure Bergson, or anyone else, for that matter, has a solution for the boundary problem (or the hard problem).
read "Mind and Nature: A necessary unity" by Gregory Bateson - wherein he tries to grapple with the same questions about systems theory and natural boundaries. The "hard problem" is also addressed by Hameroff and Penrose. Essentially science is based on Fourier or Time-frequency uncertainty. So this goes back to Plato and the Pre-Socratics. So when "magnitude" was introduced into music theory then wavelength was the definition of a closed system based on geometric magnitude as irrational numbers. But quantum physics then realized that from time-frequency uncertainty there has to be noncommutative phase logic. So the "hard problem" is the same as the "quantum measurement problem." Jean Bricmont goes into this also very well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnrJb66rQ2U So Bateson relied on Bertrand Russell - the "error of logical types" in set theory. Penrose is relying on Kurt Godel's incompleteness theorem. This goes back to the difference between geometry and algebra but the missing ingredient is music theory as logical inference. Alain Connes then realized that noncommutative phase logic solves the hard problem of consciousness. So frequency is primary to geometry yet frequency arises from noncommutative phase that creates time. So noncommutative phase is the 5th dimension that can not be seen. This inherently goes against how Western science defines reality through an external measurement. And so paradoxes arise via the "reference frame" as the boundary condition.
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@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang “Noncommutative phase logic solves the hard problem of consciousness”? Really? You need to elaborate on that. Without some further explanation, the comment sounds like nonsense. Not trying to be rude, but it’s like saying “computation by mass synchronous neural activity in the brain solves the hard problem.” Which, of course, it does not.
@danzigvssartre yeah I'm quoting Alain Connes. I just transcribed an interview he gave in English but there was computer noise. So there is the "measurement problem" as Sir Roger Penrose acknowledges for quantum physics - this is not because of some technological limit of using light as the Neil de Grasse Tyson gets wrong. Professor Jean Bricmont explains that even Stephen Hawking misunderstood Bell's Theorem. So at "zero time" there already is a nonlocal noncommutative phase of the future and the past overlapping. Alain Connes says that because the speed of light is invariant this translates the "wavelength" of frequency energy back into space as amplitude. So Yakir Aharonov's team of researchers are documenting this using entangled photons measured as eigenvectors with noncommutative math (same as what Alain Connes advocates). So there is no need for the "measurement" problem to "collapse" the wavefunction. In other words noncommutative 1/2 spin is inherently nonlocal at zero time in the 5th dimension. So at the speed of light then the future and the past are happening at the same time as the hidden supermomentum energy of light aka the "relativistic mass" of light.
This was covered up by Planck's Constant because the Joules unit measure cancels out the time without realizing that the time is noncommutative. So it just can not be "canceled out" as a symmetric ratio. This truth of noncommutative time-frequency is now what Sir Roger Penrose relies on as does Professor Basil J. Hiley (the collaborator with Bohm) - and Alain Connes and Yakir Aharonov, etc. So you do not even need to use the Schroedinger wavefunction. Spin is a new "causative force" as Hiley calls it - it is a newly discovered force that exists always-already at zero time as the truth of nonlocal energy-information.
So then in quantum biology, as Schroedinger first posited, Life is from "Negentropy" of reverse time energy (virtual photons). There is a negative frequency energy with reverse time as a harmonizing force of the future. So at the speed of light when the light is "turned around" in direction then it resonates with its nonlocal energy-information source and can "absorb" the virtual photons. This has been done in the lab now whereby virtual photons are turned into light and collected. So it just requires going "faster than" time-frequency uncertainty. This can be measured.
For example it is proven that the human ear can hear up to ten times FASTER than the time-frequency uncertainty principle. So we can hear ultrasound as a microsecond phase coherence of the right and left ear phase. Only externally this is the highest pitch we hear but when we focus on internal listening this highest pitch then resonates the whole brain as ultrasound. The ultrasound then resonates the microtubules of the neurons as a negative metamaterial - a negative refractive index. So this creates a coherent quantum resonance of the brain as a whole with 3000 times greater amplitude energy of the microtubules based on the smaller tubulins being resonated. So it is a transduction.
The water in the body does this also via the 4th phase of water by using ultrasound to then split the water into delocalized protons. So the neurons use serotonin type molecules for this as delocalized protons and electrons. So then the virtual photons are absorbed as negentropic energy and our memories are stored through the microtubules and the spin phase energy of the delocalized protons. So there is a reverse time SUBharmonic between the proton and the electron. This was first posited by Dr. Andrija Puharich doing his MKULTRA CIA research - and Dr. Michael Persinger continued on with Puharich's work.
So this is the loud OM sound that is heard emanating from the heart via the right side vagus nerve - it is the acoustic phonon energy as a subharmonic with increased amplitude from the delocalized electron-proton energy as spin energy. Dr. Emilio Del Giudice gives more details as did Dr. Man-Wan Ho - they collaborated together on this. So that yin-yang energy of nonwestern culture same with the "three gunas" of India in Yoga - it's due to this asymmetric time-frequency as eternal resonance of the future with the past. So that our external perceptions are the past via light but the direction of light can be turned around through meditation as internal light - thereby absorbing time energy from the future. This is called the "golden key" of "superluminal yin matter" in Neidan qigong meditation. Also called "virtual information healing."
So if you want to try it out then get the "small universe meditation"
c.d. - it has the instructions and you just follow along for a half hour
each day http://springforestqigong.com So the key here is that coherent
and synchronous are two different concepts. Synchronicity is more than
one frequency that resonates as a transduction so that there is a
significant amplitude increase at lower subharmonics. But with
noncommutative phase the key point is that there is no one "unit
measure" for space because when you change the direction of time then
the unit measure of space also changes. This concept is actually from
music theory but it got covered over when irrational magnitude was
created from the wrong music theory, as math PRofessor Luigi Borzacchini
calls this secret music origin of Western math a "deep, pre-established
disharmony." So for example if the unit measure of 1 is the music pitch
of geometry C and so the octave is also C as the same pitch or harmonic
as 2. The 3 then is G as the overtone harmonic to C or 3/2. This seems
very obvious but what people don't realize is that Western science
covers up the fact that 2/3 is ALSO the same pitch as the Perfect Fifth
only in the opposite time direction as C to F subharmonic.
So the
overtone series has to rely on the SAME root but if you double the
subharmonic then it changes the root value. So what Western science did
is LIE about the LYRE - by flipping the Lyre around then you can cover
up the fact that the root unit measure has changed. In other words F to G
is not an "octave" due to noncommutative phase. So the Harmonic Series
assumes that 4:3 as C to G is just a "reverse time" direction and just
calls it a "ratio" now as geometric magnitude - without explaining by
REVERSING the direction of time then you also change the unit measure of
the "one." So in actuality the 4/3 was created from the octave value
so that the root tonic is 0 to 12 and the octave is 6 to 12 and then the
Perfect Fifth is 8/12 as 2/3. But then the subharmonic is from 6/8
using now 0 to 8 is the NEW unit measure of the root tonic. So that you
get 3/4 as 6/8 instead of using the opposite time direction of 4/3. So
now you convert the frequency/wavelength into geometric magnitude so now
you can state that 12 is to 8 as 3/2 while 8 is to 6 as 4/3 and
therefore the Perfect Fourth PLUS the Perfect Fifth = the Octave as the
FIRST geometric irrational magnitude equation of science. What got
covered up is that C to F is the Perfect Fifth subharmonic of the same
root tonic but a different geometry that is noncommutative phase.
@danzigvssartre And to clarify then 9/8 is now the major 2nd music interval such that 9/8 cubed (three major 2nd music intervals) approximates the square root of two. And so this logarithmic process was just made more precise to eventually get the 12 notes as equal-tempered tuning, evenly spaced (during the late 1500s in Europe). But this originated from 5/4 being a close approximation to the cube root of two (as the major third music interval) - and thus inspiring realistic perspective in Western art and architecture for the Renaissance. So the key point here is that the original music theory that I just explained to you is actually noncommutative phase of time-frequency and this truth was not rediscovered until Louis de Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony. He realized that in relativity as a particle moves towards the speed of light then the quantum energy frequency increases but due to relativity the time as wavelength ALSO increases (slows down). Because, from the principle of Pythagoras in music theory, that frequency is inverse to time, therefore there HAS to be, logically, a reverse time from the future that is harmonizing or guiding the particle.
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