Tuesday, September 8, 2020

Aristotle said Language is "Sound with Meaning" but Chomsky thinks "Sound is too Simplistic" - Pythagoras knew better what Sound is.

 Chomsky gives a linguistic lecture

 is 

"minimum structural distance" actually noncommutative?

Chomsky says you're really trying to find out what's going on in the person's Mind....

 But this is done by the Pineal Gland via the Spirit, shen and the Yuan Qi. What is going on in someone else's mind is Reflected Holographically - and so the meaning is "transduced" or "transposed" by the Pineal Gland via the Emptiness itself. What we perceive as external reality ALREADY exists internally in our own bodies. 

Chomsky claims that dance and music in primitive aboriginal groups have

"no function at all"

But he doesn't mean that in a pejorative sense.  He means it in a mystical sense. He says the "whole conceptual system is there" even if they don't have the words for it. Brilliant.

There has to be some other process in evolution beyond natural selection; Darwin didn't like that, so they debated it. I think the answer, in all these cases, has to be that these things are kind of piggy-backing on systems that are already there for some reason. ...
Arithmetic could be piggy-backing on the system that's already there. But what about music. There is some interesting work, trying to show that the basic properties of musical systems are similar to the structural properties of linguistic systems. Quite interesting work on that. Maybe that will come out.

Yes Noam Chomsky - Maybe it will come out!!

we have to find a way to think about thought that is not language dependent and that's very hard to do.

Hey Noam - I have a hint for you. LISTENING is THINKING!!!

 listening, and note taking require us to make inferences, which are partly based on information the author or speaker has not supplied.

 It's called "Logical Inference." It's what Socrates taught with his "Know Thy Self" motto. Only the real secrets were covered up by Plato. So when we listen to our self then the "author" disappears since the I-word is not self-referential as Dan Zahavi emphasizes.

try to make sense of our experience in a coherent way....[Bertrand] Russell pointed out, the only thing were confident about is our immediate experience....This science forming capacity, which children use to make sense of the world, which primitive tribes use, it's a different one, which is also trying to make sense of the use of language. For example for a child in a Piaget type experiment...the child will automatically set up an invisible contact between them. There's gotta be some invisible mechanical thing that is causing them to interact. Because that's just the way we see the world. 

In fact that's a major event in the history of science - was when Newton showed that it doesn't work! Demonstrated what was called the "mechanical philosophy" - the assumptions about the nature of the world made by every great scientist - Galileo, Descartes Huygens, everyone and Newton himself believed it. That's why he discovered it's an absurdity - that no person of any scientific understanding would pay attention but it happened to be true: That you can't have a mechanical universe! that you have what he and others regarded as an Occult Property - Action without Contact. It "can't happen" [ according to scientific understanding]. Our intuitive understanding of the world happens to be Different then the way the world appears when we apply our scientific understanding to it. That was a wrenching moment - in fact it changed the whole nature of Science.

Post-Newton it changed. It took a long time to sink in.. We give up the hope of understanding the world. We just try to understand theories about the world. Which is totally different. You get apparent contradictions, like Hume who understood this, pointed out that Newton's greatest achievement was to show that there are mysteries which we will never comprehend. He was referring to things like Action without Contact - Interaction without Contact. 

aka Action At a Distance.

aka O at a D.

 

Professor Oore: Prof. Michael Corballis emphasizes that vocal communication as left-brain dominant is 170 million years old since it's found in frogs. And so humans are right hand dominant because we started out speaking with hand gestures but as we used tools then we switched to vocal communication. But as you know music frequency as melody is right brain dominant. So there is a hidden secret language of hand gestures that actually should convey frequency. At the end of this talk Chomsky begins wildly gesticulating - well as he normally does - but his hands are moving like a Conductor. Check out what he said earlier.
But what about music. There is some interesting work, trying to show that the basic properties of musical systems are similar to the structural properties of linguistic systems. Quite interesting work on that. Maybe that will come out.
So his "off hand comments" he uses his left hand to gesture off to the side...
There should be some micromovements. We think of higher frequency as up but phonemes are more phase related. So he shifts his hands left and right as a whole when introducing a new thought as a phase shift. Corballis emphasizes that we keep time with our left hand as a steady beat. So that is the cerebellum controlling timing since timing is the left brain. So his left hand seems to enunciate the down beat of a new sentence.
Good luck,
drew
p.s. this message will self-destruct in five seconds....
I'm talking the last five minutes

In the seminal work "Pomset logic: A noncommutative extension of classical linear logic" Retor\'e introduced Pomset logic, an extension of linear logic with a ...
 
In the seminal work "Pomset logic: A noncommutative extension of classical linear logic" Retor\'e introduced Pomset logic, an extension of linear logic with a self-dual noncommutative connective. Pomset logic is defined by means of proof-nets, later a deep inference system BV was designed for this extension, but equivalence of system has not been proven up to now. As for a sequent calculus formulation, it has not been known for either of these logics, and there are convincing arguments that such a sequent calculus in the usual sense simply does not exist for them. In an on-going work on semantics we discovered a system similar to Pomset logic, where a noncommutative connective is no longer self-dual. Pomset logic appears as a degeneration, when the class of models is restricted. This will be shown in a forthcoming paper. 
 
In the current work we define a semicommutative multiplicative linear logic, which is multiplicative linear logic extended with noncommutative connectives (not to be confused with very different Abrusci-Ruet noncommutative logic). We develop a syntax of proof-nets and show how this logic degenerates to Pomset logic. However, a more important problem than just finding yet another noncommutative logic is finding a sequent calculus for this logic. We introduce decorated sequents, which are sequents equipped with an extra structure of a binary relation of reachability on formulas. We define a decorated sequent calculus for semicommutative logic and prove that it is cut-free, sound and complete. This is adapted to "degenerate" variations, including Pomset logic. Thus, in particular, we give a (sort of) sequent calculus formulation for Pomset logic, which is one of the key results of the paper.

 

[PDF] A self-dual modality for non-commutative contraction and duplication in the category of coherence spaces

C Retoré - cs.unibo.it
We define a modality “flag” in the category of coherence spaces (or hypercoherences) with
two inverse linear (iso) morphisms:“duplication” from (flag A) to ((flag A)<(flag A)) and
“contraction” in the opposite direction—where< is the self dual and non commutative …[PDF] arxiv.org
 
 
calculus for non commutative contraction andduplication. This logical calculus could be defined as an extension of the calculus of structures with deepinference (roughly speaking, internal rewriting)

Proof nets through the lens of graph theory: a compilation of remarks

LTD Nguyên - arXiv preprint arXiv:1912.10606, 2019 - arxiv.org
Retoré's pomset logic [Ret97a] is an extension of MLL+ Mix with a binary connective
denoted by '<'whose particularity is to be non-commutative and self-dual. Its system of proof
nets extends the MLL+ Mix correctness criterion–“there is no (undirected) cycle using at …arxiv.org

Pomset logic: a logical and grammatical alternative to the Lambek calculus

C Retoré - arXiv preprint arXiv:2001.02155, 2020 - arxiv.org
Thirty years ago, I introduced a non commutative variant of classical linear logic, called
POMSET LOGIC, issued from a particular denotational semantics or categorical
interpretation of linear logic known as coherence spaces. In addition to the multiplicative …

 

Dear Professor Christian RETORÉ: Alain Connes noncommutative music lecture via Dr. Chris Knight on the original human culture as emotional musilanguage - the San Bushmen. Thanks
But what about music. There is some interesting work, trying to show that the basic properties of musical systems are similar to the structural properties of linguistic systems. Quite interesting work on that. Maybe that will come out.
Noam Chomsky
as per me,
drew hempel, MA
thanks
good luck with that one.
I have transcripts and links in the comment section of that video.
 
 
 Ah it's our old Buddy - Professor Oliver L. Reiser - co-author of the Actual Matrix Plan with Dr. Andrija Puharich!!

MODERN SCIENCE AND NON-ARISTOTELIAN LOGIC

Oliver L. Reiser
The Monist
Vol. 46, No. 2 (July, 1936), pp. 299-317 (19 pages)
Published By: Oxford University Press
 
 
 

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