My take on Wim Hof's tummo training

6 hours ago, Goddodin said:

Hi all,  I've been using this method as my main practice for around 6 months, having got to a point with my previous work where I just craved a fresh, uncomplicated change of scene.  I have 10+ years of experience in meditation practices and have previously worked with well respected teachers in a pretty consistent manner.  So I'm not a total newbie, but I have to confess I am still undecided on this practice even after half a year of diligent application.

It is certainly enjoyable and provides some quite pleasant sensations during and immediately afterwards.  I have also noted a general reduction in anxiety and depression (these weren't significant anyway) and a slight increase in energy levels.  HOWEVER....  I still can't work out if this is a bona fide path with real depths to plumb or else just a neat little trick to give you a lift in the morning.  There appears to be energy movement taking place and there appears to be a degree of tranquillity/bliss after the breathing....  but I suppose it lacks the kind of detailed framework I am used to.

The internet is a frustrating place to search for answers too, as it seems filled with people blogging about how life changing and amazing it is and this must be true because they've done 4 days of it now and their friends all say they look awesome etc etc

SO, does anyone have any balanced, informed opinion on this method?

Thanks in advance

The science studies have shown that the cold water plus the breathing. So you do the breathing first to activate the heat - but then cold water immersion doubles the adrenaline levels since the cold water forces your heat internally. Then holding the breath after exhale doubles the oxygen levels into the brain - this is described in the Taoist Yoga book as forcing the qi back up through the 8 main channels.

So also Wim Hof says to visualize fire in the stomach - and so this is the standard Tummo training as he got the training from reading Tibetan yoga texts.

So essentially you have yang qi - which is the "steam" that sores up - after the deep breathing but only after you visualize by concentrating the spirit fire back into the earth - or lower tan t'ien stomach. So the "yin qi" of the heart enables the generative force from food - the yang jing created through deep breathing - to then create "yang qi." And it is the "yang qi" that TAoist Yoga then calls the "inner fire" that is luminous. So that is the Tiger or the secret Sun (Lung qi) in the Moon of the water.

So I think Wim Hof says he starts every day with 2 hours of his breathing meditation - and then I suppose he does the cold water immersion. Then he does more meditation breathing - I suppose. And then he eats only one meal a day - because he says otherwise the food in the gut prevents the deep breathing. What the science has shown is that you are physically activating the adrenal medullae through the deep reverse breathing and so that is what increases the adrenaline levels significantly. But one of the scientists studying Wim Hof says there is some special protein that is activated by the cold water immersion - which then doubles the adrenaline levels.

So the qigong training shows we store up the energy through the vagus nerve but we do so as a "parasympathetic rebound" which means that the more we can push the sympathetic nervous system then it causes an opposite extreme. So Wim Hof also then suggests push ups or the horse stance. So with horse stance the legs are shaking 7 to 9 times per second - and the ELF harmonic is the Schumann resonance - as a standing wave with the Earth's cosmic energy. So again this shaking from the thighs sore in horse stance or with the legs bent - then causes a parasympathetic rebound reaction as a deep vagus nerve opposite extreme. This then stores up the energy - and just like with the breath held AFTER exhale - that also activates the vagus nerve.

The Yang qi is actually what Dr. Mae-Wan HO postulated as superconducting proton-proton energy - as Dr. Puharich also postulated. So the ELF subharmonic is actually a reverse time phase coherence - the spin magnetic moment between the proton and electron as the water in the body is harmonic split. This happens from either pressure or density. So with full lotus or horse stance you get the pressure on the collagen that is piezoelectric and traps the water - and splits it via an ultrasound-ELF subharmonic. But with the cold water you get density that does the same - since the colder water is more dense and so traps the energy at a smaller wavelength with the same frequency. So you get reverse time superluminal phase coherence as virtual photon energy that is trapped.

That is the secret of tummo creating such great heat in the body. But mainstream science has not figured this out - it is from quantum biology that was considered "woo woo" science just ten years ago. So with the yang qi - you would also need celibacy to keep building up the energy and as the yin qi combines with the yang qi - then you activate the yuan qi - after you have restored the generative force from the celibacy. My guess is that Wim Hof doesn't go into this since obviously he could not market himself so easily. But think about it - he got into this cold water treatment because he had depression from his wife committing suicide. Depression as per Daoist alchemy - is a lung energy blockage from lack of yang qi and is fixed by deep breathing. But since he was training to recover from his wife and so we can assume he was also celibate.

So he says now he can just use his mind to create great heat in his lower body - and so he opened his third eye through his training. Dr. Herbert Benson tested the Tibetan monks who did have the real tummo ability - so this stuff is real but then they also practiced celibacy and meditating all the time. So Wim Hof was celibate for a long enough period - before he got famous - where he opened his third eye up enough so then he could keep maintaining the tummo heat. AS he said when he swam under the ice and he got lost - he was not afraid - so he had activated his vagus nerve so deeply that it went beyond his heart stopping - under water. He said he was dying but he was not afraid and he saw very bright light. So he had activated his yuan qi energy and his yuan shen - his original prenatal spirit.

Personally I have not practiced his method - since I live in Minnesota then I have gotten a lot of cold immersion in my life - I also lived in a cabin in Alaska. But actual ice water submersion is something I have never done. I know the St. Francis Assisi monks relied on the same cold water submersion in order to maintain celibacy. So with the Taoist Yoga method you do the deep breathing to then "shink" the life force energy and drive it back into the body.  But what I have done is after small universe meditation - when the yang qi is activated and so I have great strong internal heat - then I like to go outside in the snow barefoot to freak my family out. haha. Because they don't know that I have this great heat inside to keep me warm.