Sunday, November 23, 2025

The Shrink and Hermann Goering Nuremberg movie based on Jack El-Hai book Psychiatrist and Nazi

 There are currently 310 plus million people facing "acute food insecurity" (starvation) this year as reported by the United Nations. https://elixirfield.blogspot.com/2025/11/an-officially-projected-320-million.html

I sat through most of the Nuremberg film last night - it was 11:30 pm and when the 2nd shrink was brought in - and they got in an argument (the two shrinks) - then I left. I had spent a few hours listening to Jack El-Hai discuss his book on youtube - a book that was the basis for the film. I made a playlist out of his youtube talks and related Goering info. I have to wonder how much anti-semitism was subconsciously projected by the first shrink, Douglas Kelley, and even Jack El-Hai (from Minnesota that has a strong German culture). I realize that Jack El-Hai is also Jewish but he grew up in a strong German Minnesota culture. 

 Hermann Göring's parent were diplmats in German West Africa, now called Namibia

  James Vanderbilt, director of Nuremberg, written from a script he developed from your book The Nazi and the Psychiatrist—working on it for over a decade, and at one point sending a snail-mail copy of a script to your Minneapolis house!”...

  because he started Carleton College young, at 16, his latter teenage years were Minnesotan....El-Hai's Sephardic Jewish family fled Spain during the Inquisition, ending up in Italy, in Turkey, and finally landing on Crete, where they spent some generations, before fleeing to America.

 El-Hai provides us with psychiatrist Douglas Kelley’s own conclusion: “I am quite certain that there are people even in America who would willingly climb over the corpses of half of the American public if they could gain control of the other half.”

The 2nd shrink did indeed consider the Nazi Commanders to exhibit psychopathic traits while the first shrink Kelley thought the Nazi commanders had normal traits of aggressive successful businessmen planners. Göring lied and Kelley fell for it and Kelley later in life got caught up on booze (anger liver blockage) - and so Kelley mirrored his death using the same method as Göring.  As you can see from the recent youtube comment - people are still believing Goering's B.S.!!

I don’t think he had much if anything to do with the Holocaust. The Air Force doesn’t have much of a hand in that. He was a also a good time Charlie, to lazy to actively participate in the huge effort of the Holocaust

 Total Solution not Final Solution is Goering's only real defense:

Now comes the decisive word which has been mistranslated: "for total solution," not "for a final solution."

". . . for a total solution of the Jewish question within the area of German influence in Europe. Should these come within the competence of other governmental departments, then such departments are to co-operate.

"I charge you further to submit to me as soon as possible a general plan showing the organizational and material measures for reaching the desired total solution of the Jewish question.... Complementing the task assigned to you on 1/24/1939....".....

MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: You opened the meeting:

"Gentlemen, today's meeting is of a decisive nature. I have received a letter written OD the Fuehrer's orders by the Stabsleiter of the Fuehrer's Deputy, Bormann, requesting that the Jewish question be now, once and for all, coordinated and solved one way or another."

Is that correct?

GOERING: Yes, that is correct.

AI gives the below answer.

Evidence presented at the Nuremberg trials proved that Hermann Göring was a key architect of the Holocaust and was fully aware of the concentration and extermination camps
. Despite his claims of ignorance during his defense, the prosecution used extensive documentation to demonstrate his culpability. 
Key evidence of Göring's knowledge and involvement includes:
  • Creation of the Gestapo and early camps: As Minister President of Prussia in 1933, Göring established the Gestapo (Secret State Police) and the first concentration camps for political opponents, which he later handed over to Heinrich Himmler.
  • The "Final Solution" order: On July 31, 1941, Göring signed a written order authorizing Reinhard Heydrich to organize and coordinate a "total solution" to the "Jewish Question" (the "Final Solution"). This document, EC-405, was presented as evidence at Nuremberg.
  • Economic policy of "Aryanization": Göring was a leading advocate of "Aryanization," the policy of confiscating Jewish businesses and property, which was a fundamental part of the economic persecution of Jews leading to the Holocaust.
  • Involvement in forced labor: The Nuremberg Tribunal found Göring guilty on all four counts of the indictment, including war crimes and crimes against humanity, based partly on his admissions and evidence of his complicity in the use of millions of slave laborers from the camps for the German war effort.
  • Attendance at high-level conferences: Göring attended numerous secret, high-level conferences where the details of Nazi war plans and the systematic exploitation and extermination of occupied territories' populations were discussed. 

During the Nuremberg trials, Göring adopted a strategy of denial, attempting to deflect responsibility and blame Himmler and Hitler for the atrocities. He denied hearing foreign broadcasts about the mass murders until shortly before the war's end and claimed he only had general knowledge of some executions, not the full extent of the extermination camps. 
The prosecution, led by Robert Jackson, relied heavily on captured Nazi documents to prove that top Nazi leaders, including Göring, were fully informed and instrumental in the planning and execution of the Holocaust. The evidence was overwhelming, and Göring was found guilty on all counts and sentenced to death by hanging. He committed suicide by ingesting a cyanide pill the night before his scheduled execution

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