"It seems to go backwards in time which is kind of a strange idea" - Sir Roger Penrose on protoconsciousness (new talk!!)

 "It's worse than instantaneously - ...it propagates backwards...."

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsKuyuafEKc

April talk of this year!! His discussion of Benjamin Libet's precognition experiment is very fascinating.

"the brain stimulation even though it was later, somehow cancels out the finger stimulation...How is it that the LATER brain stimulation somehow seems to wipe out the earlier [finger] stimulation."

35 minutes in....

 "an intrinsic retroactive....the actual decision [collapse of the wave function] could be conscious yet somehow is retrocausal, goes back in time..."

 quantum realities which are not random, and which are way beyond anything we can think of now...