As a young man, Nguyen spent more than three years in a cave with the Fourth Uncle of the Mountain, Tuan Quan, the guardian spirit of the Seven Sacred Mountains, a series of hills in the western Mekong Delta. The man is called Fourth Uncle because he was the fourth to sit in a chamber in the cave. Not only did he train Nguyen, but he trained Nguyen's father and grandfather. While living in the cave, Quan seldom speaks, but he assigns Nguyen various challenges, testing his discipline and dedication. Outside the cave, Quan sometimes reappears in the form of a tiger.
This sounds similar to the vietnamese diet of the barefoot doctors and shamans explained in the book "Fourth Uncle in the Mountain"
@unseenseer yes I don't follow this diet well so I eat tons of ginger (which also stops the pandemic) and also other herbs or tea tree oil. Terpenes. "My father ordered me a plate of roasted pork with fried rice and salad. He ordered fish for himself. If it had been a fasting day he would have ordered tofu. In my religion there are certain days of the month when we are required to refrain from eating food made from animals and animal products. Most Buddhist people in Vietnam fast at least seven days a month, on certain days that are traditionally set aside for fasting: the first, fourteenth, fifteenth, eighteenth, twenty-third, twenty-ninth, and thirtieth day. I don’t know why these are the designated fasting days. "
"Imagine the warm energy from the sun streaming in from the crown of your head. Imagine the cool energy from the underground spring bubbling up through your perineum. These opposite forces will blend together in your body and balance your energy." p. 248 "Do that for two weeks and then come to see me."
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang He meets his father's teacher if I remember right. One of an ancient Chinese lineage. And this teacher fasts in a cave and has lived for 200 years eating herbs and the female light of awareness or whatever you like to call it.
So that is part od the story. The author moved to New England eventually and I know people who have gone to see him for his herbal treatments. They are serious herbal protocols which most westerners don't enjoy b/c the herbs are often bitter and preparing them stinks up the house. I should try to track the guy down if this fiasco ever stabilizes to the point where everyone isn't losing their minda over a tenth of a single percent of the US population dying. The real pandemic is all the ecological crises of industrialization like you have been saying. But maybe if this virus mutates more effectively it will become a real mass killer. 385,000 ppl are born everyday and 4 million born every year in the US , so we have a ways to go to make the chimpanzees extinct here rona'. I'm all for a more peaceful solution though.
@unseenseer seriously - I found that quote and it is amazing that it CORROBORATES what I said about yang qi from the sun and yin qi from the earth! haha. Awesome. thanks again.
@unseenseer 200 years - that's amazing!
"Fourth Uncle told me that a soul egg travelled up from my navel to the crown of my head. He said that it was gestating there. He explained that every time I circulated my breath to my crown, I was bathing the egg with the energy it needed to grow and mature. In a year or so, it would be fully developed, and then it would hatch from the top of my crown. (You can find your crown point by tracing a line straight up from the tips of your ears to the tender spot in the middle.) ... About thirteen months later, the top of my head started feeling tingly and itchy. Once, when I was meditating, I felt a sensation like ants crawling up my back and neck. I heard a loud sound, like a bang. I felt the top of my head blow open and felt the air was going in and out. Then I felt myself standing up. ... I turned around and saw myself sitting on my rock with my eyes closed. I was shocked to see how small and dirty and ugly I looked. ... I told Fourth Uncle about it and he said, 'Congratulations. You have given birth to your soul body. It is young and doesn't know what do do yet. You can let it out by concentrating on your crown. You can also keep it in, by focusing on your third eye. Don't let it out that much. Keep circulating the energy the same way as before.' ... I told him I still felt the air going in and out the top of my head. He said that was good and to come back in three months."
Wow - this is precisely what the Taoist Yoga book also teaches - the birth of the shen for astral travel.
What's strange is that when I did a very strong dose of Mimosa Hostilis
and I was in full lotus meditation - I got this strong yang qi kundalini
and then I also heard a loud bang in the center of my skull like a gun
shot! And that's when the astral rainbow body light kicked in. Then a
few years later I fell asleep in full lotus yoga and suddenly I sensed
that there was someone with heavy weight in the body - and I looked and I
saw myself in full lotus on the body - and as soon as I saw it was me
then my spirit shot back inside my body. haha. I had been listening to
Coasttocoastam radio - and this guy called in talking about how he
thought a spirit was on him at night preventing him to move. But I had
read Taoist Master Ni, hua-ching who explains that if you sleep on your
back then your yin shen will feed off your yang qi energy - and this is
interpreted as a ghost or succubi, etc. So ...
Master Quang’s grandfather found Fourth Uncle during the 1860s, meditating at the far end of a cave complex deep inside The Forbidden Mountain (Nui Cam) of the Meking Delta in the southernmost corner of the Republic of South Viet Nam. The author’s father, the Honorable Nguyen Van Thau, studied under Fourth Uncle for nearly two decades during the troubled end of French colonial times. The author was his student in his dark, dank, and silent cave for four years during Viet Nam’s most bitter civil war years."
wow - so he really was ancient
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang Thank you. I had forgotten that she helped write the book and am going to watch this soon. I need to reread that book b/c it is really interesting. Picked up a used copy of "The Magus of Java" and the taoist yoga book b/c of your help. Thanks again.
@unseenseer your welcome. Wow - so another example of a REAL Yang Shen - just like the original human culture stating that their most advanced masters would transform into Lions!! "Outside the cave, Quan sometimes reappears in the form of a tiger. Everyone in the nearby village of Xa Ba Chuc knows about Tuan Quan, Nguyen writes in his book. One day, the old man visited a couple and slept in their guest bed. The following morning, the wife noticed the bed was empty, and assumed their guest was outside, using the outhouse. "Later that morning," Nguyen recalls, "the wife went into the bedroom to tie up the mosquito net. She called to her husband to come quickly. The bed smelled like a wild animal and it was covered with tiger hair." The husband and wife collected the hair and went to Bon Su, their village chief. The chief did not seem surprised. "It must have been Tuan Quan, the guardian spirit of the Seven Sacred Mountains. He has been visiting our homes in order to learn about us and our ways, to make sure we will uphold the values of the Buddha Master, since he is no longer among us
."
https://www.rutlandherald.com/news/a-new-vermonters-vietnam-memoir/article_2a823138-84a0-50ff-a6dc-0d31a96b22af.html What's funny is that people don't believe this stuff because obviously it's very rare but also they don't really study it for cross-cultural analysis, and the science behind it, etc.
A few weeks later, the couple invited another old traveler to overnight in their home. That night, a full moon shone in the windows and woke the couple. "The husband
thought he was seeing an enormous tiger asleep on the bed. He heard the power of the tiger's breathing, and he smelled his musk." He and his wife did not run away; they stayed up all night praying. The next morning, he showed the tiger hair to Bon Su and other villagers. "That is why," Nguyen writes, "everyone in my religion believes in Tuan Quan, our guardian spirit."
Yes if you read the biography of Phra Acharn Mun - he takes his monks into the most tiger infested parts of Thailand because he says the fear of death makes for the best meditation. But then he secretly communicates with the tigers to make sure they don't eat the monks. haha
@Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang Wow that is some incredible backstory. Holy smokes. I read that book -- thanks to my mother -- when I was a teenager and haven't read it since. It gave me a profound sense of dread at being a westerner. Around that time I met a profound healer and my first partner. I'm going to have to try and interview her.
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